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Bruiser
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:54 am |
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Mr Pain wrote: Stifler wrote: well, if he was unbeatable, then why not put him at 32 asap? isn't that how the game should go? push people up to levels where they belong? if he is that capable, why keep him in the lower levels? if he is so unbeatable, why are the people who get beaten by him at higher levels than he is? Because he's deliberately built his build so that he doesn't defeat people, but draw - When he so chooses, he can use his 99k damage sub fin to take the main title (Currently has the sub belt) and then holds it for a very long time. This is one of the flaws in the current system, and this would only be exaggerated by a system which had a minimum amount of time on a level. how would it be exaggerated? isn't the problem here him sitting in a level where he shouldn't be? if there was a minimum time staying, he couldn't abuse the draw system and he'd be placed in level 32 where, if his build so permits, he can still draw all he likes
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Mr Pain
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:51 am |
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Stifler wrote: Mr Pain wrote: Stifler wrote: well, if he was unbeatable, then why not put him at 32 asap? isn't that how the game should go? push people up to levels where they belong? if he is that capable, why keep him in the lower levels? if he is so unbeatable, why are the people who get beaten by him at higher levels than he is? Because he's deliberately built his build so that he doesn't defeat people, but draw - When he so chooses, he can use his 99k damage sub fin to take the main title (Currently has the sub belt) and then holds it for a very long time. This is one of the flaws in the current system, and this would only be exaggerated by a system which had a minimum amount of time on a level. how would it be exaggerated? isn't the problem here him sitting in a level where he shouldn't be? if there was a minimum time staying, he couldn't abuse the draw system and he'd be placed in level 32 where, if his build so permits, he can still draw all he likes Once again, you've misunderstood my point - it's not that the master doesn't challenge him, it's that he's built to lose to the master, but draw with everyone else. A minimum time on the level wouldn't affect that. My other point was being made about those who are choosing to level sit lower down in the levels, say level 16 - they spend their exp, beat the master, then get rewarded with 3 days of being unbeatable on the next level up. The minimum time on a level is just unrealistic.
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terrence
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:58 am |
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i ahve that problem 2, i always lvl too fast ( got challenged by masdter) i only lvld once by my self now im lvl 14 and i suck, im the weakest of my lvl dms s2
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Bruiser
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:12 am |
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Quote: My other point was being made about those who are choosing to level sit lower down in the levels, say level 16 - they spend their exp, beat the master, then get rewarded with 3 days of being unbeatable on the next level up. The minimum time on a level is just unrealistic.
lol. thats a lot better than being active and getting punished by leveling twice in the span of four hours. if they become unbeatable for 3 days, thats because of their great build, and thats just their luck that they dont level a quick, but imagine all those who play for like a year still in the lower half, owning all the wg's and such. isn't the game supposed to reward activity? not discourage it? if they can own wg's so well, why not level them up and give them a bigger challenge. unrealistic? i beg to differ. everything can happen if a proper petition is made 
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Mr Pain
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:28 pm |
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Stifler wrote: Quote: My other point was being made about those who are choosing to level sit lower down in the levels, say level 16 - they spend their exp, beat the master, then get rewarded with 3 days of being unbeatable on the next level up. The minimum time on a level is just unrealistic.
lol. thats a lot better than being active and getting punished by leveling twice in the span of four hours. if they become unbeatable for 3 days, thats because of their great build, and thats just their luck that they dont level a quick, but imagine all those who play for like a year still in the lower half, owning all the wg's and such. isn't the game supposed to reward activity? not discourage it? if they can own wg's so well, why not level them up and give them a bigger challenge. unrealistic? i beg to differ. everything can happen if a proper petition is made  I feel like I'm discussing this with someone without much high level game experience... It's not because of their great build, it's because they chose to level sit for a year and a half on one level, then spent all their exp which is disproportionate to the level they are on. You're point about inactives ruling is moot at best, because the game does reward activity - in everything else, you should smash them because you have more exp.
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Bruiser
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:25 pm |
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Mr Pain wrote: Stifler wrote: Quote: My other point was being made about those who are choosing to level sit lower down in the levels, say level 16 - they spend their exp, beat the master, then get rewarded with 3 days of being unbeatable on the next level up. The minimum time on a level is just unrealistic.
lol. thats a lot better than being active and getting punished by leveling twice in the span of four hours. if they become unbeatable for 3 days, thats because of their great build, and thats just their luck that they dont level a quick, but imagine all those who play for like a year still in the lower half, owning all the wg's and such. isn't the game supposed to reward activity? not discourage it? if they can own wg's so well, why not level them up and give them a bigger challenge. unrealistic? i beg to differ. everything can happen if a proper petition is made  I feel like I'm discussing this with someone without much high level game experience... It's not because of their great build, it's because they chose to level sit for a year and a half on one level, then spent all their exp which is disproportionate to the level they are on. You're point about inactives ruling is moot at best, because the game does reward activity - in everything else, you should smash them because you have more exp. well sorry for not being as high and mighty as you are. and ps. inactives rule wg's because of their stats. exp doesnt matter cause there are no at's *facepalm*
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Mr Pain
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:16 pm |
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I never implied that, I was merely saying why I think my point isn't coming across. No need to get touchy.  And yes, these inactives may "rule" the WG's, but that's because they don't build well with exp, or don't have enough of it - as sad as you may find it, WG titles are a minor part of the game in comparison to everything else. One of the curses of activity and building well is that you find yourself in levels with people that have a lot more stat wise: whilst this is an issue, no doubt, the number of people who would complain if the levelling system was based totally on stats would be much, much higher.
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DocSpock
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:54 pm |
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You know what is worse than an inactive player hogging wg titles though? An active one.
Take Stifler's example which imo doesn't matter because if they are inactive they are not a global threat.
However take a level sitter who is spending tons on stats to keep wg titles AND having tons of matches but not spending exp etc. to solely stay on a level they can win the WG titles. Then you will find WG titles ARe an important factor because that person can be saving up 3 TP a day every day for a charge up the ranks. They dont miss out much either because they also gain exp from trading etc. without a risk of leveling up if they save up exp.
Those are the sorts of people I would be more worried about rather than inactive people.
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Mr Pain
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:47 pm |
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DocSpock wrote: You know what is worse than an inactive player hogging wg titles though? An active one.
Take Stifler's example which imo doesn't matter because if they are inactive they are not a global threat.
However take a level sitter who is spending tons on stats to keep wg titles AND having tons of matches but not spending exp etc. to solely stay on a level they can win the WG titles. Then you will find WG titles ARe an important factor because that person can be saving up 3 TP a day every day for a charge up the ranks. They dont miss out much either because they also gain exp from trading etc. without a risk of leveling up if they save up exp.
Those are the sorts of people I would be more worried about rather than inactive people. That's the exact point I'm trying to make; you let them do that, and then if there's a minimum time in a level, they get all the bonuses that would come with that as well.
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DocSpock
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:30 pm |
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I don't know what you're doing to zoom through levels. I play S3 and it's nigh on impossible to do this unless you REALLY try to do it with SA's, maybe 2 levels at best but the masters on S3 are quite good to stop this sort of thing. Beat one and get owned by the next, even in earlier levels. I guess this is why S3 doesn't get as many complaints. Seems it's a historial hangover of the 2 older servers 1 and 2 and 1 is that old now that of course you are going to start getting accumulation at the top of the game. I still think S1 could use a full restart some day 
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Bruiser
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:23 pm |
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DocSpock wrote: I don't know what you're doing to zoom through levels. I play S3 and it's nigh on impossible to do this unless you REALLY try to do it with SA's, maybe 2 levels at best but the masters on S3 are quite good to stop this sort of thing. Beat one and get owned by the next, even in earlier levels. I guess this is why S3 doesn't get as many complaints. Seems it's a historial hangover of the 2 older servers 1 and 2 and 1 is that old now that of course you are going to start getting accumulation at the top of the game. I still think S1 could use a full restart some day  i think all servers need a restart. hahaha. well maybe not a full restart, just a retirement server, and im glad to actually have heard news about it. hope it works out soon
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