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 Post subject: a BIG OL PETITION
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:30 pm 
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can master challenges please be fixed, nerfed, balanced, whatever term you'd like to give.

i know that the master is supposed to push you up when there are too many people in a level, but seriously? guys like me playing for only 3 months keep on getting bumped up while others who have played for more than a year get to sit comfortably?

now i don't know how to go about this but please, someone see from my point of view, they can sit there and rule wg's while the "actives" suffer, not saying active people can't win wg's but when you're up against people with almost 3x as much stats than you, its a difficult feat indeed. now lets talk moves, they've been training as well so unless you have super leveled moves, you wont get anywhere. moreover, most strong end game moves must have already been unlocked for them because of such high stats.

now i dont really know how to go about this, but maybe let leveling not be entirely based on who has more at's? come on. find a better system please.

its not fair to only spend like 2 days in level 20 then only 2 hours in level 21

maybe put a minimum and maximum on how long a wrestler can stay in the same level?

please. understand. :( hope im not the only one that feels this way!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:10 pm 
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I know how you feel Stiffy. A lot of people know how you feel.
I would bring this up with one of the Admins myself, they're the only people that can really address this topic.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:07 am 
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I do not sure which server are you talking about here but well I don't think anyone can break my record [or at least I think]

I go from lv 19--->21 in Server 3, I never even get to see lv 20, so 2 hours is good for you and also low lv=low payment [4*lv thing you know?]


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:32 pm 
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yeah guys, exactly. i mean, im not gonna complain about the auto-master challenges but i just want to see it buffed, wherein all players experience the same treatment. seems like some kind of punishment for being active and spending exp when u get leveled out of nowhere lol. anyway, i hope this sparks something and people of a higher power read this


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:27 pm 

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How would you solve this issue though stifler? Yours is WG titles, those have no at/sa's in them. So how would the master fight someone and level them in that regard? Can't go having "no at challenges" as then people will end up on levels with people with insane experience if they have little.

I guess the only issue is if the person is being challenged themselves or not or if they are outside the master challenge range? If they are outside it and winning WG Titles perhaps the system could change to include 15+ days of winning the 5TP WG title reward = eligible for master challenges.

If however the person is losing to the masters then that's their strategy and then they are weak in every other form of the game except wg titles.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:04 am 
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DocSpock wrote:
How would you solve this issue though stifler? Yours is WG titles, those have no at/sa's in them. So how would the master fight someone and level them in that regard? Can't go having "no at challenges" as then people will end up on levels with people with insane experience if they have little.

I guess the only issue is if the person is being challenged themselves or not or if they are outside the master challenge range? If they are outside it and winning WG Titles perhaps the system could change to include 15+ days of winning the 5TP WG title reward = eligible for master challenges.

If however the person is losing to the masters then that's their strategy and then they are weak in every other form of the game except wg titles.


well thats just it. i dont know how to solve it. i mean yes, i know of people who build around wg's. i once did this, but when you hit the higher levels its kinda impossible to hold one unless you're a veteran lol. but im not so concerned about that, i just want people to be bumped up along with me. for example, in level 21, my highest stat was 45, the level champ's lowest stat at that time was 45 :lol: so ok, its more or less given that he's ofc gonna do better at wg's than me, but the thing is, i get rush leveled twice and i check him, and he's still at level 20. that just means more weeks of wg's :shock:


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:47 am 

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Question is though is he still there from never getting challenged ( ranked really poorly and no title defenses for norm titles ) or is he just not beating the master?

As Isaid if it's the prior then perhaps the system could be adapted to challenge these people too who get tons of WG points so they level up. I've always said X draws should = level up and well if he is then losing ot the master constantly he doesn't have that great of a normal build thus won't do well in area's you or others could have usch as PL's for the level, tournies ( espeically good back in those levels when you win TP for winning too unlike 30+ you get no tp for winning tournie matches ), EC's one fall titles etc. Also if they are inactive who cares? They end up with 5K matches you have 20K, he can get 3 TP a day forever and it's not going to stop the fact you will destroy him in match count if he doesn't play regularly and you do.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:51 am 

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I agree with Stiffler. I think that it should be something regular, like event. Maybe every week, starting from leveling up each wrestler is being challenged by respective master? Of course, it will still be inferior, life isn't fair at all. At least, it's one way to cushion the impact.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:03 am 

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I think a good minimum time for a lvl before the master challenges you for first time is 3-7 days spend on each level (howmuch days exactly in the days range depending on wrestler's lvl) for low levels (below 10) and some more days for higher lvls.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:46 am 
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well if only there was a time set so people could see the light of day for every level lol. for example, each person could have a minimum of one day per level or something like that, i dont know. as long as we dont power level like crazy, im okay with it


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:20 am 

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Whilst this idea certainly has merit, it doesn't take into account the level sitters, who could spend their exp and be completely unbeatable for 3 days on one level, then to go up a level and do the exact same. Until there is a solution for that, which I believe Doc has posted a number of times, this isn't a viable idea.


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if you would read the posts above, i do mention sitters, those that go inactive and jsut stay there while being able to hold wg's. this is jsut the thing. active people seem to suffer more when they add their at's. for example, back at lvl 20, my highest stat was 45, and the lvl champ's lowest stat at that time was 40, highest being 70. then i got bumped to 22 in a blink of an eye while he still sat there. if the system placed a master that challenged players based on a combination of stat number, exp, and ws, it would be much better.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:04 pm 

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Stifler wrote:
if you would read the posts above, i do mention sitters, those that go inactive and jsut stay there while being able to hold wg's. this is jsut the thing. active people seem to suffer more when they add their at's. for example, back at lvl 20, my highest stat was 45, and the lvl champ's lowest stat at that time was 40, highest being 70. then i got bumped to 22 in a blink of an eye while he still sat there. if the system placed a master that challenged players based on a combination of stat number, exp, and ws, it would be much better.


The best sitters aren't inactive. The inactive sitters aren't the biggest problem the game has, people like Cyber T (No offence intended) or Link (When he was around) who are active, know the system well and would benefit massively from your system. The current system isn't based on ATs, it's based on level position and it is, as has been mentioned before, flawed. But if we were to set a minimum amount of time on the level, someone like Reggie Mantle, as one example, could spend his exp and then have 57 days (assuming a 3 day minimum stay) where he'd be unbeatable on every level he went to.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:20 pm 
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well, if he was unbeatable, then why not put him at 32 asap? isn't that how the game should go? push people up to levels where they belong? if he is that capable, why keep him in the lower levels? if he is so unbeatable, why are the people who get beaten by him at higher levels than he is?


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Stifler wrote:
well, if he was unbeatable, then why not put him at 32 asap? isn't that how the game should go? push people up to levels where they belong? if he is that capable, why keep him in the lower levels? if he is so unbeatable, why are the people who get beaten by him at higher levels than he is?


Because he's deliberately built his build so that he doesn't defeat people, but draw - When he so chooses, he can use his 99k damage sub fin to take the main title (Currently has the sub belt) and then holds it for a very long time. This is one of the flaws in the current system, and this would only be exaggerated by a system which had a minimum amount of time on a level.


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