The Wrestling Game Forum

Yes. Managers can bring the heel wrestlers to another level and this is tested time and time again. I miss paul bearer. He is good as a heel and face manager. Hoping for a grand return of the urn in the return of the masked kane.

They really cant use the Urn anymore.. Seriously that has been played time and time again and has got ridiculous, lol..

I never really liked Paul Bearer as a manager. I think characters like that are too over the top for modern pro wrestling. That being said Bobby Heenan will always be the greatest manager of all time. The sad thing is there are so many talented managers out there these days that it wouldn't be that hard for TNA, WWE, or even ROH to pick up a couple of them and really elevate someone beyond the top. That's the most frustrating thing about modern pro wrestling. With all of these guaranteed contracts and companies making money from outside sources they worry more about appeasing toy companies than they do about making stars.

Lol. Can you imagine Kane getting the win by knocking cena with the urn? Epic!

WCW was a great show! I mean, great story lines, great wrestlers and they just made what they wanted!
That's the reason Attitude Era is better than PG, you don't need script, you make it by yourself.
The Boss just tell you what he wants and the wrestlers did with they own creative mind (I read it in Jericho's book)
The great fall was in Halloween Havoc and after it, with Vince Russo in a Championship Match between Jarrett and Hogan
I saw the video and my will was burn Russo. But good times in WCW, I really enjoyed watch it.

ECW was PURE HARDCORE before WWE!! Was great see a barbed wire ring, blood in every match and mostly, the crowd.
It wasn't a simple crowd, they wanted BLOOD! They chant ECW every single time!! They chant Holy Shit! They chant Oh my God!
Unforgettable... I don't know yet how ECW fails or if WWE just bought it because they wanted.
But the ECW wrestlers were amazing, risking his lives and healthy in every match. This is HISTORY now, but I really miss the Extreme Rules match, Barbed Wire Match and many others in HardCore style...

This x1000

[quote="SaviorPunk17" but I really miss the Extreme Rules match[/quote]

The extreme rules match was an ECW/E made match not an original old school ECW match, it was just like an hardcore match in wwe with a different name . In the old ecw extreme rules was basically a regular match up cause they always used tables and chair in 70% of their matches back then. But I do miss the old school ecw from 92 to 99. I know ECW made it longer then 99 but after 99 they started to tone down the extreme stuff and tried to become a main stream type fed..Also before ECW came to the scene Memphis wrestling was just like them with bloody brawls, barbed wire, they did the first scaffold match in the 70's , and stiff hitting. Its where Japan deathmatch icon Onita got idea to do crazy matches for his fed FMW from what he seen in his earlier days in Memphis.

Then lets not forget WWC In Puerto Rico where did fire, and barbed wire matches in the late 70's and 80's long before ecw, fmw or any other hardcore fed that was around..

I miss the old school hardcore wrestling cause now days we have backyarders acting pro wrestlers just smashing each other with light tubes and using weedwackers for no reason. No feuds, no build up just going it to get cheap pops and sell dvds..In the old days when you saw a barbed wire match it was a match to end a feud for good when no other gimmick match worked to end it, like a cage match or a chain match, if any of them matches didn't end it they brought our the wire and said this is the end cause nothing could top it. It was a brutal match and every fan knew if they saw a barbed wire match on the card it was going to be a bloody battle.

Does anybody else miss WCW? I grew up with the NWO and the rise of Goldberg.....good times.

Miss WCW but not Goldberg.

I miss NWA more. Would like to see Vince do the territories for his developmental feds..I mean yea WWE has what FCW but what I'm talking about have like 10-16 territories on TV, tour the area they are based in so wrestlers can make a name for themself (Some have already but not all). That way when a developmental wrestler makes it up to raw or smackdown, people can say "Hey I knew him from Texas Pro wrestling (Made up fed just for an example) he is pretty good" Besides having some people who comes out from FCW that no one has heard of....I mean come on, show of hands who knows who is in FCW besides what you read on net.

It would help in many ways..If your not a wwe fan but catch one them territories developmental feds live or on TV and become a fan of a wrestler or wrestlers and they make the big times, you will tune in to see that wrestler. It would help indy wrestlers be more known and extra money in their pockets, doesn't have to be much but alittle more then they would working in some small fed then driving 200 miles the next few days to work in around small fed. Gas ain't cheap and if your a territory your in that area. Its better then driving from FL to PA then to IL then back to FL in one week.

In some ways the independent scene is a bit like a modern territory system, wrestlers going to lots of different promotions before being signed by WWE or TNA. Like what Daniel Bryan and CM Punk did. A local territory in the old sense would be better for the reasons you mention, the travel etc.

you what? Grew up? First news!^^

Right ok. Bryan Danielson and Cm Punk did do the independent scene but its no where like the territory system cause when a wrestler was in a territory they was there, they didn't work for 6 diff feds a week They work one fed until they moves to the next territory ... Yes Punk Bryan made a name for them self the way it should be. Make their dues before getting signed to either WWE or TNA but guys like Zack Ryder, where u come from? NYWC, yeah no one has heard of that place. I'm just saying some of wwe guys never worked and made a name for them self like the old days, the indy scene 75 % wrestlers never get an tna or wwe deal. That why when I look at wwe and see guys, I'm like who is he or she. I never heard of him/she or seen him/she...Unlike the 80's you see a wrestler pop up on show, you go oh that so and so from where ever, he isn't good or he is good...heck even in 90's was the same way but alone cause wcw and wwf grabbed all the ecw, uswa, ecwa, smw, scw, ect guys they could find.

If not enough ok then. Ever heard of

Jake Carter
James Bronson
Jason Jordan
Sonny Elliot

Nope, cause they didn't make a name, they had a couple years in the indys and wwe saw they could be TV ready and signed them....But if Vince did an territory thing then A) wrestlers would get a name and B) they could known and C) They would be TV ready cause they would be on TV if Vince did the territory system and had TV shows for them (and if did the WWE Tv channel then having FCW. and other feds would great for WWE cause fans would get see they guys before they make it to raw or smackdown)....Thats why Punk and Danielson are getting over cause people already know who they are.....

Darn you Pearson! I'm a big boy now!


I understand exactly, that's why I called it the modern day equivalent! I'd love to see the old territory system done, but if WWE was running all of them it wouldn't have the same spirit of competition, the same body builder types would have a unfair advantage everywhere as they tend to in WWE. Maybe if WWE worked with what's left of the NWA now that would help with that problem! XD