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 Post subject: Seems unfair
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:31 am 

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i was trying to progress through a level so when i chose to level up i wouldn't have difficulties getting to the top, then the master of the level attacks me, and i level up against my will. seems a bit unfair doesn't it ?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:58 pm 

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The master auto-challenging system is in place specifically to prevent what you are desiring to happen, which itself seems a bit unfair. In order for you to not have difficulties getting to the top of a level, other players must have more trouble getting to the top at the same time. Without this auto-challenge system, new players would be very likely to just leave the game when someone who has been level 1 for a year hits them with legendary attacks and ends the match in one attack sequence.


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 Post subject: Re: Seems unfair
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:54 pm 

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i like the feature of auto-attacking by the masters. if you're having a difficult time levelling up, and you're ready to give up, they're attacking you. and one day you'll wake up and see that you've levelled up. thats a good thing


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:31 pm 

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It is unfair and you will see many players complaining about it here at the forums but without any satisfactory answer from if any from Admin.. Cause they know its true..Now the unfairness pinches most to the fact that partiality at this move to purpoely level up one player while other older and stronger players do not suffer from same fate...
But there are ways to escape from this situation which have to be figured out on your own.. But a more obvious way is to win a belt and then defend it, cause till the time you have the belt you can't level up. ;)


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:04 pm 

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Since this is a managerial game you have to keep in mind various things....one of them is understanding & handling auto-challenging system.


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 Post subject: Re: Seems unfair
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:23 am 
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yes it is very unfair, we should be able to choose to lv up on our own, man you are genius.


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 Post subject: Re: Seems unfair
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:28 am 

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Samson wrote:
It is unfair and you will see many players complaining about it here at the forums but without any satisfactory answer from if any from Admin.. Cause they know its true..Now the unfairness pinches most to the fact that partiality at this move to purpoely level up one player while other older and stronger players do not suffer from same fate...
But there are ways to escape from this situation which have to be figured out on your own.. But a more obvious way is to win a belt and then defend it, cause till the time you have the belt you can't level up. ;)


It all balances itself out, actually, over the course of 32 levels. Most people will have a number of levels where they sit on top for a good period of time, but then they go straight through the next level.

Cause and effect. It's not unfair, just plan better.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:08 pm 

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Samson wrote:
It is unfair and you will see many players complaining about it here at the forums but without any satisfactory answer from if any from Admin.. Cause they know its true..Now the unfairness pinches most to the fact that partiality at this move to purpoely level up one player while other older and stronger players do not suffer from same fate...
But there are ways to escape from this situation which have to be figured out on your own.. But a more obvious way is to win a belt and then defend it, cause till the time you have the belt you can't level up. ;)


Well, I won the Sub Belt in level 4. I have had it for a while and I have only had 1 challenger. My wrestler has progressed and I could beat the Level Champ pretty easily, but I can't because of the other title that I can't get rid of...

Is there a release button?

Or am I just stuck?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:00 pm 

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ChrisMystery wrote:
Samson wrote:
It is unfair and you will see many players complaining about it here at the forums but without any satisfactory answer from if any from Admin.. Cause they know its true..Now the unfairness pinches most to the fact that partiality at this move to purpoely level up one player while other older and stronger players do not suffer from same fate...
But there are ways to escape from this situation which have to be figured out on your own.. But a more obvious way is to win a belt and then defend it, cause till the time you have the belt you can't level up. ;)


Well, I won the Sub Belt in level 4. I have had it for a while and I have only had 1 challenger. My wrestler has progressed and I could beat the Level Champ pretty easily, but I can't because of the other title that I can't get rid of...

Is there a release button?

Or am I just stuck?


That actually has nothing to do with this topic, but I'll answer it anyway.

You're stuck.


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 Post subject: Re: Seems unfair
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:53 pm 

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I think the masters could be made better. I just got bumped to level 32 where I have no chance of competing against anyone. Titles will never be seen now


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 Post subject: Re: Seems unfair
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:25 pm 

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The issue si and always will be that you will get people stuck on levels with mosnters though and this should happen otherwise what is the fun in the monsters who invest heavily or get otherwise strong in this game being stuck in a level with 4 of them permanently?. The thing that needs ironing out is what happens when a large majority of people get stuck on a level with them.

We've been down the path of new masters and new master system before but it doesn't seem like the admins have anyi nteresting inchanging things.

All we can hope for is once level 32 has over 30 people on it a level 33 is added and gets the usual treatment as far as what criteria are required for the master come for you.

Still they have rehashed the entire game ocne before when adding levels to 30 so maybe there is a chance they will redo it.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:59 am 

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yeah i see what u mean it happened to me too


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 Post subject: Re: Seems unfair
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:14 am 

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DocSpock wrote:
The issue si and always will be that you will get people stuck on levels with mosnters though and this should happen otherwise what is the fun in the monsters who invest heavily or get otherwise strong in this game being stuck in a level with 4 of them permanently?. The thing that needs ironing out is what happens when a large majority of people get stuck on a level with them.

We've been down the path of new masters and new master system before but it doesn't seem like the admins have anyi nteresting inchanging things.

All we can hope for is once level 32 has over 30 people on it a level 33 is added and gets the usual treatment as far as what criteria are required for the master come for you.

Still they have rehashed the entire game ocne before when adding levels to 30 so maybe there is a chance they will redo it.


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 Post subject: Re: Seems unfair
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:10 am 

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I've bought it up a few times on how to achieve it.
The system we have now is fine, the masters are not.

Basically to make new masters it requirs him or some other staff taking a 'test' master and testing it out against the toughest and weakest people of each level until a good mix is found for each levels master.
What I suggest is say master level 25 can JUST lose to the top player(s) in the game on say s1 currently, master level 26 however whips them pretty good - masters 27-31 would have to scale accordingly form there as noone will be in those levels in my concept ( no point adding more levels, use what we have but make them more condensed.

Thus the master level 25 should beat most of the top half of the level 32s except those top players. Master level 24 will lose to say maybe a bigger portion of the level 32s, maybe half *shrug* depends how close they are in strength at this point ( this is why manual testing is needed ) but 24 will beat the other half ( thus seperating them by a level ).

This testing goes on and on against random people until you end up with some masters that are pretty well calibrated to current strengths of the server and people fighting those masters would more or less end up on fairly even levels. Also the scaling from 26-32 would have to take into effect the increased growth of ATs etc. so they couldn't for example each level get 20 stats or whatever biugger, they need to grow by a larger margin each time.

Anyway that's a rough guide of what I had down, in short what is needed is basically each servers manager taking the time with a configurable master or player to test this sort of thing and record the stats for each levels master - it cant be game wide ideally except for lote servers and s3, but s2-s1 need their own masters really.

Once that's done everyone is reset to level 1 and mass master sweeps occur, you fight through until you lose and that's the level you are at. Current leveling system stays as is except a draw register is added, 10 draws on a master = level up ( bye bye level sitters ). As for this mass levelingr thing it's happened before to give us our current masters so it could happen again.

So yeah nothing is needed to change to the system, jsut the draw part. The masters are what need some work.


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 Post subject: Re: Seems unfair
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:55 am 
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What I suggest is that you just add AT to master and let someone who know how to play the game [those lv 32 or better just let Nem add it}

problem solved oh and yeah draw=lv up that you guy always wish for. Problem solve.

Too bad it is a little too late now since most people are already at lv 30 31 32

Perhaps if you can do that to new server that has been mention that would be good.


If I remember correctly when I play Server 3 my feds MAW had like 120K fan base power, but now the top fed has like 100K
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