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Indy’d Indeed: What’s left to say?
Hello all, I’m Mr. Indianapolis (that’s Mr. Indy to you!), and this is the Indy’d Indeed (Indeed, Indeed!).
Last week I talked about Wrestlemania 24, because I was so on top of things this year I actually managed to buy it on the New Releases shelf at Wal-Mart. And for the record, I don’t care if Wal-Mart is supposedly ruining America. Look, if history repeats itself, Wal-Mart is going to fall to another retailer eventually. Then we’ll say that company is ruining America. See: Sears, Roebuck and Co.
Also last week, I revealed my own fantasy draft (the abridged version). Some people love what I had to say. I believe the favorite was that I had moved all the big guys to RAW, all the mid-heavyweights to Smackdown, and all the cruiserweights to ECW. Though for some reason, one thing people did NOT like was my plan for HBK vs. Taker on Smackdown. Let me state categorically that 1.) I realize HBK will stay on RAW until retirement if for no other reason than he and Trips won’t let themselves be part of ANY real draft, and 2.) HBK and Undertaker was done before. The first one I really can’t say much to. As for the second... well. HBK/Undertaker. Hell in a Cell. Badd Blood. 1997. For all the people trying to say their smarter than me because I made no reference to this feud, I’d like to remind you it was done in 1997. News flash; it’s 2008. In the wrestling world, that is far beyond long enough to say “the two have never met in the ring before!” Stupid, but true. Besides, are we going to resume a feud from 11 years ago? Nah, make it new. I find it a wonder how any two people that have spent so much time in the WWE can stay apart for so long. Ignoring the Royal Rumbles, which I did mention, so hah!
Currently in Pro-Wrestling... At any rate, there is nothing going on to really write about. At the moment, I’m home for the summer, and thus without cable or high speed internet, so it’s painfully difficult to try and watch anything else besides Smackdown!, and I really barely want to watch it since La Familia is shown in every element of the show except Kozlov.
In fact, to make Smackdown better for me, I’ve stopped reading the spoilers. Thus, I sincerely hoped and thought Batista was going to lose his match against Khali and be banished two weeks ago. No, it’s not because I dislike Batista, honestly. Rather, it’s due to the rumors that Batista wanted time off. To my knowledge, the Undertaker did not ask for time off, at least not publically, but got it anyway. Batista asked for time off, and not only was he not given it, but he was taunted with it. He had to compete in the same stipulation as a guy who did get time off, but poor Batista had to win the match. They rubbed dear ol’ Dave’s face in it. Quite frankly, that made me mad at Vince.Â
I try desperately to catch RAW in some way shape or form, but normally I’ll just read a report of it and ECW. I gave up on TNA a while ago. Is Joe still champ? He needs to be. And he needs to be for about the next year, when I get cable again back in the dorms. More on TNA later.
But why am I saying nothing is going on? Let’s see, Night of Champions is around the corner, and we’re really getting nothing new. For world titles, we’re getting to see Edge/Batista for the 5th time, Triple H vs. Cena for the 20th time, and Kane vs. Big Show 50th time.
On the rest of the scene, Matt Hardy got forced to defend the US belt against Chavo for absolutely no reason, and the Intercontinental title is... well, meanwhile Morrison/Miz are going to be the next jobbers to Hornswoggle. So what is new? Well, just because it’s new, doesn’t mean it’ll be good.
Katie Lea has finally cemented the fact that she is more over than Burchill is since his return by getting a title shot at the Women’s belt. Poor Burchill. I wish he could go back to Smackdown and put on the pirate bit again, it would be so easy to do. Meanwhile, the Smackdown Women’s title is getting ready to be instated, and newcomer Nattie Neidhart seems ready to grab it. Let’s see if they do anything with this title belt, and maybe I’ll care more.
What do I care about? Well, Ted DiBiase Jr.’s mystery partner is about the only thing I could really care about right now, that’s all. Why? Well, if you haven’t heard, supposedly there’s a new stable of second generations emerging. Different people have different ideas on who it could be, but my picks are DiBiase Jr, Cody Rhodes, DH Smith... and... Deuce.
Now I know everybody’s pick after the WWE website “hint” is DH Smith, but that’s just a “red herring” to me. I swear the WWE has done that kind of “flub” before, and then had it mean nothing but to throw people off. But I can’t for the life of me remember what it was...
Anyway, I figure Deuce is going to be the mystery partner. Deuce and Domino just fell apart as a tag team, and I don’t think either are really ready for the singles matches. But for those that don’t know, Deuce is the son of Jimmy “Superfly” Snuka. So Deuce could be the tag partner and the rumored Second Gen. stable could still happen. Just for the record. But still, I’m taking the Second Generation stable rumor with a grain of salt. After all, Nattie is still on SD! as well, and looks to be women’s champ over there. She’s a second gen, why leave her out?Â
What are we looking forward to? But like I said, other than that, there’s really nothing going on. The big problem with Night of Champions is that the show is right on the cusp of the draft. This is a problem when you consider that you really can’t make too many feuds going into Night of Champions unless it’s someone you know you aren’t drafting. Obviously, not all of the contenders are going to be drafted, but there are currently 9 titles up for grabs on PPV, and 24 people are going to be competing. That’s a good portion of the total roster, and that means there are certainly going to be a few drafts, therefore there are going to be weak storylines. Don’t you think if you draft someone that is aiming for a title that they either won’t win, or can’t really be going anywhere?
The draft is basically what we’re looking forward to, even though NoC is going to be the near-immediate result. No better way to bury a huge all-titles-will-be-defend PPV than have it right before one of the biggest 3 hour specials of the year. But what else are we waiting for?
1.) Edge/Vickie Wedding I hate when they announce a wedding date. It always means something big is going to happen, and that means murder for any current storyline with the people involved. Here, I expect Undertaker to return and take out Edge or Vickie with the blood choke. It’s the only way to justify banning the move if UT was just going to be banned himself afterwards. Then what? Well, supposedly Edge is supposed to be re-feuding with The Undertaker. Of this I am not happy about, but whatever. It’s not like he has anybody better to deal with. I seriously don’t want the belt to be on either if they go at it again. So I’m going to assume Edge either lost the belt at Night of Champions or...
2.) CM Punk cashes in his Money in the Bank. Do I really think he’ll do it at the wedding after UT blood chokes Edge? Nah. But it would work. Still, Punk has made no real indication how he intends on using it. I swear it’s just because Vince is trying to figure out how to give the briefcase to someone else. Maybe... MVP? Is that why those two went at it before? Eh, MVP is currently lost, so I’m gonna assume he’s off to RAW on Monday. Besides, to not do so would make a complete mockery of his speech on the last Smackdown!.
Getting away from that... What do I think is going to happen from here? I really don’t know. I would personally think both World belts are going to change hands, and we’re going to see Cena/Batista get traded again to where they were several years ago and we’re going to have EXACTLY the same belt change. Cue up the renewed HHH/Batista feud, and Cena/Edge/UT, and we’ve got a game set up. But then again, it probably won’t happen. I mean, the big problem with this is the fact the pay-per-view happens after the draft. Much harder to say Cena and Batista win the belts when neither is remaining on the same brand. We’d immediately know they both were getting the belts after the first world title match happened. That would ruin the main event title match, wouldn’t it? But can you really see Cena getting drafted to RAW without the spinner belt?
And why didn’t I hypothesize all this last week? Because I don’t want it to happen. Yes, there is a difference between what I want, and what I see. If this were about what I wanted to see, Vickie Guerrero would have been long gone, and I would have been paid Vince’s millions for having to watch Vickie/Edge kiss open-mouthed. Oh, so that is why Vince is paying us now...
Desperation and Competition? My Take on TNA For the record, I had nothing against Vince doing the million dollar thing once. I don’t really feel it was a desperate act... but planning on doing it any longer was. Especially into the draft, which normally gets ratings anyway. C’mon now, we can’t treat any deviation from the norm as simple desperation. I think it was cool that Vince was willing to pay money out of pocket. I think it will be desperate to keep it going any longer. And as far as I’m concerned, it’s desperation for nothing. If anything, this helped RAW get so bad rating-wise that people are actually turning to TNA.
That being said, TNA sucks.Â
I’ll say it again, TNA sucks.
Disagree? I don’t give a flying monkey if you do or not. The ratings speak for itself, and they say I’m not alone. The last I heard from Nielson Media, AM RAW was getting a higher rating than TNA was. And AM RAW is a clip show on at the worst possible time in the world.
Look, you can say TNA hasn’t gotten a chance, but TNA is on the Spike Network (didn’t the WWE air there at some point?), and it airs on Thursday night (the night to put your best show on). That is a major network, and that is a major chance that the network has given them. And they still can’t beat AM RAW, a Friday Night at 2am clip show? It’s one thing to not be able to beat ratings against ECW, a show who only has drawing power in one CM Punk (who can currently be seen on EVERY brand) but remains as one of 3 brands in the WWE lineup. But not being able to beat AM RAW? That is so below acceptable in a “comparable” product, I can’t even contain my irritation.
And they’ve been in business for... how many years? Six? They’ve gotten quite the acclaim, especially after Angle appeared for the Angle/Joe dream match. And still, they can’t consistently hold any audience. They’re out of excuses.
If you like TNA; cool, I’m glad you found your product. No really, I am. I understand that people aren’t going to like the same things, and TNA is certainly a divine twist from the issues the WWE has. I personally can’t stand it, though I hear TNA has been drastically improving in the past couple of months. I guess I can wait to see if they’re still doing well next fall when I go back to the University lifestyle, but otherwise, I’m not really looking forward to it.
But anyway... Blah, well, that’s what I have to say for this week. Maybe soon I’ll see something worth really writing about, but for now I’ll stick to the hodgepodge you see before you. Nevertheless, I’m still Mr. Indy, and this is still The Indy’d Indeed. Oh wait, this would have been the perfect week to talk about RVD---
Until next week... ;) Views: 1,074 
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Comment # 1
Wait a minute! Deuce is Jimmy Snuka's son?! They don't look anything alike! So that means that at Night of Champions 2007, it was father vs son?!
Posted by hitmanricks on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 2
ADOPTED Son.
That would mean Deuce is the Rock's cousin, I don't think so!
He is adopted.
Posted by Vince on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 3
"I don’t give a flying monkey if you do or not."
did you just say "flying monkey?"
TNA is WWE's garbage bag. it isn't just a joke. if Vince loves you, welcome to RAW. If you're alright, you're on SD. the lowest of the WWE go to ECW. and if WWE doesn't want you, or you have a problem with them, they ship you to TNA, where you fight to capture fans that aren't there.
and you seem to have this strange obsession with RVD.
Posted by Jason on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 4
whether you like TNA or not, you have to give the wrestlers credit, as they are the fall-out from WWE (by that I mean they either were a part of, or were not accepted by) yet are still willing to do what they enjoy in a situation that tries to be different from the norm. WWE is great, but it sometimes has storylines that drag on and for me its good to turn over to TNA once in a while to get a change of scenery.
Posted by manogre on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 5
RVD.
Well I torn my body in half for the fnas so they scream for me. Cuz iw as Cm Punk of ECW when it was after Dudley and Tazz left. My title reign is boring so I as a friend to say we were driving funny on the highway. He setup his own DUI bust to go back to his roots of talkign abotu anything. 5 limb bruised at once was a fun finisher to watch but he should have evolved smarter moves. So Indy can i get an indeed on RVD. Over ratted just the only guy left worth looking at.
Posted by Jake Hammer on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 6
You know it wouldn't surprise me at all if on some covert level Vince or his company have a stake in TNA. I mean no competition can also be bad for business so it just seems smart to secretly fund something that offers an alternative but an alternative that knows it's place so to speak.
It's just they seem to have too many like Ideas (and not necessarily 'good' like Ideas LoL) that raise my suspicion levels.
Anyways just a conspiracy theory of mine.
On RVD.... how the hell can they sack him for smoking pot and like only suspend a person for using roids or in Jake the Snake Roberts case they kept giving him chances even though they knew he was on any hard drug he could get his hands on. He had an appetite for destruction and probably still does if he is alive. I'm thinking there was more to the RVD thing then a little weed......just another conspiracy theory heh
Peace
Posted by Yuri on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 7
wjauhauth
Posted by tripleXtreme on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 8
So by your logic of fime gone by in wrestling Steamboat vs. Macho Man never happened. Flair vs. Rhodes steel cage never happened. And Michaels vs. Bret Hart never happened. I just don't see the logic man.
Posted by White Ranger on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 9
White Ranger- It's announcer-speak. Birchill disappeared for a while, suddenly it's like his past never happened. They do it all the time with gimmick changes & such. For instance, when Joe joins WWE (to tag with Umaga, as part of a samoan stable...mmmm...) they'll promote a Punk/Joe match as though it was something that has never happened before. Why? Cos only 1% of their fans know/remember/care about their ROH feud.
Great article Indy, I'll forgive the cynicism ;)
Posted by Cirice on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 10
good as always indy nice work, totally agree with you on everything, now lets try to get you working for wwe :P
Posted by Monkey King on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 11
*Start Rant*
TNA hate is now becoming like background drone from the community especially here in TWG where people don't even consider wrestling beyond WWE. I honestly don't get it, I'm literally baffled.
Then again I'm a wrestling fan, a extremely rare thing in the online community. It seems more like people attaching their ego to a brand instead of actually looking at what they are watching.
Let me lay down a few things for you morons.
Wrestlers need work.
Seriously. When you leave, quit, fired or whatever from one job, you don't all of sudden refuse to work unless you get the same exact job back. You go where the work is. I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL GO INSANE the next time I hear people complain about WWE wrestlers being in TNA. It's not a "reject" or "misfit" or "garbage bag" like some idiots try to say. It's called getting work where the work is. Same thing happened with WCW and ECW back in the day. Maybe I should start calling The Undertaker a WCW reject, since after all, he was in WCW before WWE.
Ratings don't reflect quality.
I know what the young people are thinking, that I'm a idiot for that statement. I mean, of course. The more people who like something the better it is, right? Maybe not.
You seem to not understand things like marketing, brand loyalty (like most the marks around here) and name recognition. Wrestling has become much like music in the sense that often the product's image is sought after and the actually quality of the product is a afterthought.
There is also a bias right away and I've seen it time and time again from many WWE marks. They turn into TNA, and right away before anything happens just spout out "its suck, I hate it. blah blah blah" before actually giving it a serious chance. Problem is, as much as I've seen people do this, I'm sure there are many, many more who do. Obviously if enough people don't give something a chance it will never do well.
TNA isn't perfect, but it's not that bad either.
I'll admit, there are some story lines, gimmicks and matches made in TNA I don't like. That doesn't mean I'm going to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Their X-division is amazing, their Knockouts are light years away from Divas in term of in ring skills, they have a flourishing tag team division and even the Main Even picture, especially recently, has really picked up.
WWE on the other hand, well...
Tag teams? Yeah, think about it. Divas? I'd rather look up porn if I'm in the mood for that. What about a cruiserweight division... Oh wait, there is none. As for the Main Event, it's good, but also getting stale. The draft is really all we have to hope for to fix it.
I honestly like WWE, but I currently prefer the alternative product of TNA. I also enjoy indy wrestling of all sorts when I can catch it. I just wanted to say, that far too many people are allowing the product's name become more important that what it actually going on. So, instead of saying TNA fans are out of excuses, I say WWE marks are out of excuses. Out of excuses why you refuse to even try out TNA. Out of excuses as to why you criticize a product you've never seriously watched. Out of excuses to be parroting the same tired arguments that are 3 years old. Out of excuses as to why you claim to be a wrestling fan, despite just being another WWE mark.
Realize you're tools who refuse to actually look at something for it's quality, and just like something warm and cuddly attached to your ego to help you find self worth.
*End Rant*
Posted by Tristan Pulse on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 12
I must say that I'm a huge fan of TNA because of it's high-flying X division, great Knockouts and interesting tag teams. I don't like some of the storylines and sometimes I feel that Russo is not good enough for TNA, however I know that I will watch it again. Especially now, when X Cup is on the roll. And I like the way they promote great wrestlers. Samoa Joe is already great and one of my favorites, and I can't wait to see another match between Petey Williams and Kaz, they're putting on a great show.
About WWE, I like it too, even though I watch it only for a little bit more than half a year. I must say that during this time I have seen same main events again and again, which is not very good if you ask me. I'm not waiting for the main event to see another clash of my favorite wrestlers. I'm wondering if I should wait for the main event, or maybe just read a report to see how the storyline is going. And I'm seriously starting to be fed up with Vickie Guerrero and it can end up with me stop watching Smackdown! at all.
I consider TNA better for me, however I will probably watch WWE also anyway. But I can't agree with a statement that TNA sucks and TNA wrestlers are leftovers. Look at AJ Styles or Samoa Joe and call them leftovers in their faces. I wonder would you be able to do it?
Posted by Clairvoyant on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 13
I'm not sure he was calling Samoa Joe and AJ Styles leftovers as much as most of the other wrestlers on the TNA roster are leftovers. Styles and Joe are there because they get to wrestler their style of wrestling in TNA...a style that they would more than likely have to change if they would sign with WWE. Vince has never liked smaller wrestlers and AJ isn't exactly HHH sized. I would hope they would push him the way they did Michaels but you never know and Joe would have to tone his style down because I don't think WWE would want a 300 pound man running around like a cruiserweight. I'm fairly sure Joe mentioned something to this effect in a shoot interview he and CM Punk did for ROH...It's hilarious, so check it out if you can.
Posted by Surgeon General on Sunday, June 22, 2008
Comment # 14
where is RVD??!! he, like, died, or sumthin'
Posted by The Gorilla Bulldozer on Monday, June 23, 2008
Comment # 15
I'm pretty sure that RVD's wife or girlfriend found out she had some sort of cancer so he's tending to her and helping her through the ordeal.
Posted by Surgeon General on Monday, June 23, 2008
Comment # 16
Every pro wrestler in WWE or TNA has probably done more hard work and had more sense and drive to succeed to get where they are in life than most of the people on internet sites calling those same people rejects, old fat guys, talentless, traitors, or whatever else. I'd like to see one of you walk up to one of these wrestlers - I don't just mean the main-eventers, I mean the jobbers too - and tell that wrestler to his/her face what you've done that makes you qualified to throw out an insult like that. Criticism is cool, deal that out sure. But calling somebody a washed-up has-been... or indeed, an entire company a bunch of throwaways... or anything like that, is not criticism. It's nastyness. So the people who keep doing that around here: ask yourselves why do you say things like that? What are you compensating for? And shouldn't you be fixing that in your own life, whatever it is, rather than downtalking others to make yourself feel good? If you don't like TNA, all you need to say is that you don't like TNA. Beyond that you're just repeating yourself pointlessly using different words. You think they'll never be as good as WWE? No... you KNOW they won't. Somehow... hey, fortune tellers... mind giving me this week's horse racing results while you're at it? Ye who know the future, as you all claim. And the exact same thing goes for TNA marks rubbishing WWE too. You're exactly the same people, with one detail switched. Final piece of advice: saying that you don't give a damn about your audience inside of an article they're reading (for any reason), is never a good idea. I'm no expert writer or anything, far from it. It's just common sense.
Posted by Jane Ross on Monday, June 23, 2008
Comment # 17
ps. Up to the pointless and completely disconnected anti-TNA fanboy rant, I enjoyed the rest of the article. If you find TNA so sickening, maybe it's best to avoid all mention of it in future, and just write about WWE instead. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted by Jane Ross on Monday, June 23, 2008
Comment # 18
I'm not sure who told you that TNA is getting better over the past few months. Every day TNA gets a little bit worse...from my point of view anyway.
I understand that WRESTLERS NEED WORK, and you can't expect TNA not to hire big names from WWF. But that's not what I watch for. Every time TNA hires a WWF guy, he is thrown into the main event scene, and thrown down our throats. Case in point...Booker T wins "moment of the year" for 2007. Are you kidding me? That's the problem. The WWF guys are holding the guys down that built TNA.
I watch wrestling for surprises. Seeing Booker T win a title is not a surprise. And I like Booker T. And to be honest, he hasnt been that bad.
Seeing Mikey Whipwreck hold every belt in ECW...that was a surprise. And it'll never happen in TNA because they have too many big WWF egos. Lethal, AJ, Roode, Kaz are the future of TNA but have little shot at a legitimate title run.
Posted by Bo on Tuesday, June 24, 2008
Comment # 19
i say, wow, to tristan, that was nice. I totallly agree. I've been watching WWE since 2005, and quality has gone down. I only watch it right no for a couple of stars. But I like TNA a lot more now, even heels, and im more of a face kind of guy. WOOT, go Aj Styles with the face turn, also gratz 2 him for almost landing the hottie aka Karen.
Posted by glide fan on Tuesday, June 24, 2008
Comment # 20
Everyone Deuce is adopted to Jimmy and by the TNA sucks really bad they need to go somewhere.
Also CM Punk deserves a push he keeps losing so many matches but appears on all 3 brands.
Posted by Maniacs Unleashed on Friday, June 27, 2008
Comment # 21
no wonder they call you surgeon general
Posted by crone on Monday, June 30, 2008
