Welcome back to The Bouncing articles. This article I will write about the W.W.E world title regulars. I will kick things off by talking about The Big Show. Oh yea, I will be keeping a score. If they are good W.W.E gets 1 point and if they are bad, W.W.E gets -1 points. I will end this article by saying who deserves to be a regular.
The Big Show
Now he is O.K sometimes and other times he is boring. Pretty much depends on if he is heel or face. He is fun when he is heel, but stale when he is face. He is a regular, no matter what you guys think. His knockout punch should not be a finisher, but should it be for a few of the powerhouses? 1 or 2 is fine, but right now I can think of 4 (Big Show, Undertaker, Kane, and The Great Khali). Since W.W.E will most likely not get a lot of positive votes and The Big Show is actually entertaining sometimes (something that some regulars can not pull off), I give him a positive 1 for The Big Show.
Rey Mysterio
He is an annoying regular. Yea he is a good highflyer, but guys like Evan Bourne and John Morrison are way better. The 619 is an annoying finisher, but his roll-up finisher (Yes it is a finisher since he ends most matches with it) is even more annoying. It his his fault that Dolph Ziggler never got the Intercontinental Championship. Kane could have been pushed to go to Fatal 4 Way, but they instead had to put this regular. I hope he departs from W.W.E soon. I give W.W.E a -1 for Rey Mysterio.
Randy Orton
Did you guys know that Orton got Mr. Kennedy fired? If I could I would give Randy Orton a -1,000, but hey I should follow my own rules. The R.K.O is classified as a finisher? What were they thinking when they gave him that “finisher”? You want to know a good cutter finisher? The Twist of Fate (Matt Hardy does is way better than Jeff because Jeff makes it obvious that he lets go) is way better. The punt kick is not creative at all. It doesn't even go good with his gimmick. Like there are some finishers that go good for people's gimmick, like Edge's spear. Edge suppose to be sneaky, and the Spear helps. Randy Orton's finishers are horrible. He is boring on the mic and in the ring. He is the worst backstage because he gets talented people fired. If he got Kennedy fired, who else got fired by him? Kennedy is the only one we know of. Maybe he was behind the firing of Mike Knox, Elijah Burke, D 'Lo Brown, Jesse Tony Atlas, Jimmy Wang Yang, Big Daddy V, and more. I do not know the reason behind everyone, but maybe Randy Orton got some of them fired. I give W.W.E a -1 for Randy Orton.
Triple H
Do you ever wonder why he has knee problems? BECAUSE A BUNCH OF HIS MOVES INVOLVE THE KNEE!! Let's look at his move arsenal. He has the Knee Facebuster, Knee Trembler, Pedigree, Running Knee Drop, and the Diving Knee Drop. If he botches then he could easily injure his knee. Just as long as he doesn't go blaming is on other superstars (we don't want multiple Randy Ortons, or at least I don't). His Pedigree looked good back then. Now it just looks different. It doesn't look as good as it did back then, His Spinebuster is actually good. A good H.H.H Move that doesn't involve the knees? Wait, I am going overboard. I am just talking about his finishers. He does not deserve to be a regular. He is overrated and he is boring on the mic. His old D-X days were good (with X-Pac, Road Dogg, Chyna, H.B.K, and Billy Gunn). Triple H nowadays are, well not as good. And he is not good enough to get W.W.E a positive vote. I give W.W.E a -1 for H.H.H.
The Undertaker
How could I put this. Well umm, HE LOST MY RESPECT WHEN HE BECAME THE “AMERICAN BADASS”!!! That had to be his worst gimmick. Most people will get mad at me for saying that, but I am sorry for telling you the truth. Chuck Palumbo (maybe Orton got him fired too) pulled a motorcycle gimmick off well. Way better than The Undertaker. The Hell's Gate is a bad finisher for The Undertaker. I am curious of what they will do with his streak. I hope Kane doesn't end it because it will be too obvious and not a surprise. I also hope none of the regulars end it. You know who I want to end it? John Morrison, Vance Archer, Dolph Ziggler, William Regal, Zack Ryder, Cody Rhodes, Ted DiBiase, Chris Masters, Shad, or J.T.G. There are more who should, but I won't make a gigantic list. The one who I think will end it will be Ted DiBiase. Not exactly my 1st choice, but it is better than other choices. He is boring on the mic and in the ring. His promos are all the same. His matches are all the same, except for his opponents. When was the last time he lost a 1 on 1 match by pin or submission? I want to see what would happen in a cage match between Undertaker and John Cena. I am curious who W.W.E Will have win. I give W.W.E a -1 (do not regret that) for The Undertaker.
C.M Punk
Some may disagree that he is a regular, but he is. How long was he in the World Heavyweight Championship picture last year? Yea exactly. At a time he was the worst W.W.E superstar, but now he is actually in the top 15. His feud with Mysterio is boring (don't know if it is over yet). His finisher is not good for him. Here let me give you an example, if he doesn't end it with a G.T.S he just does a kick to head. Why? Because he cannot lift up guys like Mark Henry and The Big Show. So don't give him a fireman's carry finisher. His segments are all the same, but I like his gimmick. I like how the fans hate him (most fans that hate him don't know that wrestling is scripted). CM Punk is actually a good regular. I give W.W.E a 1 for C.M Punk.
Edge
Do I really need to explain? EDGE IS THE BEST REGULAR!!!!! Just as long as he stays away from being a face. Spear Spear Spear Spear....
THAT WAS ANNOYING AS HELL!!!!!!!!! Don't get me wrong, the spear is a good move for his gimmick (as said earlier). I just don't like that he constantly gets a shot. Like he was injured for a long time, but he comes back and already gets a shot, but who didn't see it coming. I was hoping that he wouldn't return at the Royal Rumble. I wonder who would have won if he didn't return, but it probably would have been a regular. He should use his Edgecution and Edge-O-Matic as actual finishers. Like he should end matches with those 2 moves. Why are signature moves used? To make the opponent look stronger. Like here are examples of moves that are signatures that people barely win by that. John Morrison's Shooting Star Press, Triple H's Spinebuster, R.V.D's Split Legged Moonsault, Chris Jericho's Lionsault and Enziguri, and Kane's Sidewalk Slam. I hope I got my point across about signature moves. Edge does not deserve to be a regular; remember, I will say who does deserve it. I give W.W.E a 1 for Edge.
Chris Jericho
I am almost out of space, so I will have to be brief. I do have to rant on Cena, say who should be a regular, and say my predictions. So sorry hardcore Jericho fans, but I will cut things short. He is good on the mic, he has good finishers and signatures. He is good in the ring. I just don't like how he returns after a long absence and gets an instant title shot. That was just bad on W.W.E creative's behalf. I give W.W.E a 1 for Chris Jericho.
John “Superman” Cena
Yea there are a lot of Cena fans reading this, but hear me out. He is boring in segments and in the ring. His moveset, well all 5 moves are annoying. Why does he scream when he applies the S.T.F.U (not going to get sucked into calling it by the “other name”. I hate P.G more than you guys)? Why does he scream in every segment? Why is he a regular? Why isn't he a jobber? The reason for him being a regular is most of the W.W.E universe's fault. Because some people still cheer for him, by his merchandise, and ask for him for the Make A Wish Foundation. Because of the mistakes by some of the W.W.E “fans” (they are not true wrestling fans if they like him), he is now in the title picture. He is in now in no storyline other than title storylines. Hey this rant was shorter than expected. Keep in mind that I am tired as I am writing this.
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Now for who should be a regular: NOBODY. Why? BECAUSE IF THEY WANT TO BE MORE ENTERTAINING THEN THEY SHOULD KEEP A VARIETY OF PEOPLE WHO GET A SHOT!!!
GOODNIGHT!!!!
Comment #1
NOTE: This was written before fatal 4 way and had fatal 4 way predictions, but they were taken out for obvious reasons :P
Posted by The Bouncer on Saturday, July 03, 2010
Comment #2
bad article. i don't agree with any of your opinions.
Posted by wow on Saturday, July 03, 2010
Comment #3
Sorry kid, but I just have to look at the wrestlers you like to know you're far too obsessed with trying to find the good points in 'underrated' while missing out on the reasons these guys are where they are.
'Mike Knox, Elijah Burke, D 'Lo Brown, Jesse Tony Atlas, Jimmy Wang Yang, Big Daddy V' plus Anderson, Palumbo and for once you've gone an article without mentioning Snitsky. Of those, only Anderson/Kennedy and Burke have done anything with their career since they left. Atlas, D'Lo and Big Daddy V have all had their time. Yang was decent at best, and may have deserved better, but without a Cruiserweight title there's no belt he was legitimately going to go for. Jesse and Knox never had a great deal going for them.
'John Morrison, Vance Archer, Dolph Ziggler, William Regal, Zack Ryder, Cody Rhodes, Ted DiBiase, Chris Masters, Shad, or J.T.G.' to break the streak. Seriously? Two of that list deserve the chance - DiBiase and Morrison. Ziggler at a push. Regal's past it, Masters is on his 2nd strike, JTG and Shad are useless as singles competitors. If Vance Archer and Zack Ryder deserve a shot, why not Curt Hawkins? What really irritates me is that you rate these people higher than Kofi Kingston, who outperforms almost all of them on a weekly basis.
You do have a good point about people being 'regulars', but the reason you've given them a 1 or -1 is faulty. The reasons they're regulars is because they entertain the crowd and make WWE money. Cena's a poor wrestler but, like Hogan before him, knows how to pump the crowd up. The Undertaker's the only guy with a bit of magic left in him in the form of his gimmick, and you dont think he should be a regular in the title picture?
Incidentally, how come the only time CM Punk's used the Anaconda Vice in recent memory was to 'beat' Undertaker in a submission match, and at no other time? It's a solid finisher, and would be perfect against the Mark Henry types when the GTS doesn't work
Posted by The General on Saturday, July 03, 2010
Comment #4
the reason cenas popular is cause fans love him their not gonna change him just for u and reys pretty good at highflying atleast better than jomo and just cause you have a bone to pick with orton dont mean u need to trash his inring skill sorry but i give this article -1
Posted by bad article on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #5
why is all your stories about wwe when there more than one that seen on national tv. alot of people think TNA is putting on better shows than wwe well that what i think. just like with the nexus group this is just another nWo type group that coming in and tearing stiff up its the same story line over and over again with new people
Posted by ok are you serious on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #6
This article is rubbish. Twist of Fate is a good cutter finisher, yet RKO isn't? I guess you didn't like the Diamond Cutter, either? And, how, exactly does the punt kick not work for his gimmick. Besides all that, Undertaker is rarely boring, Triple H is def. NOT boring...I'm not a Cena 'fan' per se, but he's def. a SUPERSTAR, and deserves what the WWE give him. He's carried this company since Wrestlemania 22, and you can't deny that.
Posted by TwiztidTequilaThomas on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #7
K I got a lot to respond to.
comment #2, Yes you are right. Since you don't agree with me it automatically turns into a bad article. So the only way for it to be a good article (by your logic) would be for everyone to agree with me (even though it is impossible)
The General, I am not a "kid" as I believe I am older than you. Yes I believe Orton might have had something to do with at least 1 of them being fired. But when did I day that Atlas did not has his time? Read correctly, don't just skim through everything if you wanna "argue". And for the record, Snitsky is the 2nd best powerhouse. I have a question. WHO DO YOU WANT TO END THE STREAK?? Someone who has accomplished alot and already has a push, so no point letting them end the streak(HHH)? Or maybe someone who you think is good but has no talent(Kofi)? Or maybe an obvious choice(Kane)? All the people I named for that deserve a push and actually have talent. By your logic Jericho shouldn't end the streak because he left before.
comment #4 (who is too scared to put their name), I am a fan and I don't love Cena. And Orton got Kennedy fired btw.
comment #5, I wrote a U.F.C article, but the pubs don't accept it. And I WILL NOT WATCH T.N.A!!! W.W.E is at their worst right now, but T.N.A is even worse. And I stopped watching R.A.W a while ago because it bores me (not as much as T.N.A).
TTT, RKO is horrible. Diamond Cutter is better than RKO. ToF is better than both. Undertaker is rarely boring? He takes 10 minutes to go to the ring, that is so fun to watch. His segments are all the same. I hate when someone hits a big move on him he sits up right after. HHH is not boring? He is one of the reasons I stopped watching R.A.W. Cena deserves it? Ask any guy who watches wrestling above the age of 12 if they like Cena. The only reason kids like Cena is because he never insults the crowd and he is most of the time in the title picture. And he has not carried the W.W.E. FYI, he is a strong supporter of P.G. If he got fired right now most REAL wrestling fans would, actually all REAL wrestling fans will be happy.
Posted by The Bouncer on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #8
Where do you get your facts from? I can tell you, I know lots of people who are fans of Cena. Where do you think all his merchandise goes? It's not all 12 year old boys buying it, and it's not just women buying it. Cena has a strong gimmick. You don't support PG...big deal. Neither do I, but I still watch. Let me tell you something about horrible gimmicks, and wasting time on TV. It was called the nWo. Now, let's look at the people who have SUCCESSFULLY helped WWE. Jim Ross. (Fully supports Cena) Triple H (Fully supports Orton) You want to look at your facts, WHY did Kennedy get fired? Maybe it's b/c he's so injury prone. Maybe it was Orton. Either way, who cares? He wasn't that great...But I'm getting away from myself. Maybe you should book for WWE. I'm sure you would do easily as good as...Vince Russo? Eh, whatever. I don't want to say your wrong, but I don't think you are right. Stop insulting people that are high on the roster. MOST of them deserve it. They've worked to get there, and they've performed at a high-enough level that WWE gains fans. Debate that if you will, but we all know what happens to REAL wrestling promotions. (ECW, Independent scene...) No one watches them. We all talk about how much we love them, but if we loved them as much as the WWE fans love WWE and WWE programming, ECW would still be in business. Think on that one for a while. Get back to me when you stop hating everything WWE promotes.
Posted by TwiztidTequilaThomas on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #9
i left my ingame wrestler name if anyone has a problem with my comment.
This isn't fact this is just opinion and what is the point of this article i read it 3 times and still don't get where you are trying to get at. I honestly dontcare if you hate or like any of these wrestlers you just gave us OPINION, either right about something useful or don't write at all ... i'd like to see you do what they do, maybe they are boring but it takes years for them to master what they do and if you bag out someone like john cena, thats your opinion his a good wrestler he has a large fan base wait my the biggest one, i'd like to see you challenge him or i'd like to see if the millions of people like him would care about you.
This is pathetic
Sammy Jones Jr
Posted by SammyJonesJr on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #10
TTT, yup his gimmick is so strong. He never loses by pin or submission in one on one matches. He never quits. Wow that gimmick is so fun to watch I wish I could watch all of his matches 24/7. REALLY? You think that is a strong gimmick? And nWo=garbage. Nexus is better. Do I care if J.R supports Cena? Hmm let me ask. The Bouncer, do you care if J.R supports John Cena? He is? Oh it all makes sense now. J.R likes Cena so now I must be his biggest fan. WORD LYFEZZZ!!! I am being brainwashed and I am luvzing it!!!
I DO NOT CARE IF JR SUPPORTS HIM!!! And HHH supporting Orton, 2 people who I dislike who are in WWE. And Kennedy wasn't that great? Yup you are right. Hey did you get the news?? Aliens visited my house yesterday. They were from another galaxy!!!
Kennedy is one of the best.
And I will insult whoever I please to insult and praise whoever deserves it.
Yes WCW and ECW suck because they went out of business. So when WWE goes out of business (it has to sooner or later) it automatically sucks. And for the record I hardly watch independent. Also, I do not hate EVERYTHING WWE promotes.
SSJ, thank you. You are a true Bouncing Article fan. You loved this article so much that you read it 3 times. And I don't know if know, but this article is under "opinions". Try and check that out. And I bet it took 5 years for Cena and HHH to bore us and 6 years for Orton to learn how to get people more talented than him fired. And I do not know if there are millions of people that are like John Cena. And maybe millions of people may like Cena, but I bet more people hate him. Oh yea, what makes you think I cannot "challenge him"? You think because I write articles I am weak? You have never seen me in real life. Trust me, I could take Cena on (no homo).
Posted by The Bouncer on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #11
TB, as a wrestler myself I can definitely say that this article annoyed me. It is full of the reasons wrestlers hate the internet wrestling community. These are the typical smark comments you'd expect from someone who hasn't been in the ring or had the proper guidance of what is right or wrong to do in a wrestling ring, but tries to act as if he does. This is not a personal attack by any means, as you probably know, but basically I have to disagree with pretty much everything you said. Big Show is the best wrestler of his size, that I will agree with you on. BUT, the K.O. punch is a very realistic finisher with the size of his hand, especially after he went through boxing training. Definitely deserves to be at the top.
Next we have Mysterio. I have to question your judgment here. Not only is he better than Morrison by a long shot (I'll get to that), but he works in a way that psychologically works with his size. When you are a small wrestler doing what you want while keeping to realism is very hard, but Rey-Rey pulled it off. I agree that the Tiger Feint kick is an annoying finisher, which is basically the splash afterward which also doesn't look good, but seriously, when was the last time you saw him end a match with a roll up? I actually can't remember a single time that he did. Your opinion of him also seems to be based on the fact that he was put in Fatal 4 Way instead of Kane. Trust me, even if he weren't that wouldn't have changed the fact that Kane is going to stay a career upper-midcarder, and frankly he seems fine with it.
Randy Orton. The Viper who does whatever he needs to without care. The wrestler that will strike out of nowhere, the sneaky (Viper-snake-sneaky) S.O.B who will hit you with a Randy Keith Orton-RKO- out of nowhere. How does an RKO not fall into place perfectly with that wrestler? If I had to choose only one thing I like about Orton, it would have to be how well his moveset integrates with his character. Punt doesn't need to be original-It needs to look effective, and a football kick to the head, which would otherwise send a ball flying for a few dozen yards, is effective. It is used to take people out, nothing more, nothing less. A very effective weapon for a heel, and he used it once since turning face, on Rhodes. Don't base your opinion of the man on the fact that he got Kennedy fired, because he saw it to be right and who knows, maybe it was. He also stalled the push of Kofi Kingston, which I am glad he did because to be a main eventer you have to be able to carry a match, something little Kof-Kof isn't able to do. He is a lot like Morrison-flashy for the sake of flashiness, for the sake of that "wow" effect. I have never seen the guy hit Starship Pain without either missing the opponent or trying to stick to the spin while forgetting to make it look effective enough to hurt. Wrestling 101: If you don't do it good enough to make it look effective-DON'T DO IT! in that respect Dolph Ziggler is one of my favorites. He knows his strengths and sticks to them. Internet fans also seem to hate on HHH. True, he is married to the boss' daughter. BUT, he has a great mind for the business, and again, focuses on his strengths. Wanna know why he uses the knee all the time? Have you seen the size of that thing?! He does because it looks effective. Same reason Dusty Rhodes used the Bionic Elbow. He had an elbow bigger than his head, so he uses that. And regardless, a knee is very effective. I use a knee to the back of the head as a signature, because when done right it looks like I take the opponent's head off.
Now onto the Deadman... Why did he lose your respect on a subject he had no control over? He most likely didn't ask to be a biker heel (although he may have, I don't know enough about that). I have to disagree about Polumbo, though. He was generic as hell, and other than come to the ring on a bike he did absolutely nothing about the fact that he was a biker. I don't see though how can you say that the Undertaker is anything less than phenomenal in the ring. After the 2 amazing matches he had with HBK, to the level that one wrestler alone is just incapable of carrying. It takes 2 to tango, and Taker sure as hell can dance. He pulls off his gimmick extremely well, and for his size he is anything but generic.
Edge: Deserves it as hell, only he is too injury prone. Works very well as a heel, only thing is I don't think the Big Boot he sometimes uses suits his character at all.
Jericho-I will also be brief as I have to go: I agree.
Cena: He is not a bad wrestler, just has a bad gimmick. He knows what he is doing, although he doesn't pull most of his arsenal moves very well. He needs to use a fireman's carry move other than the F.U., as it just doesn't look impactful. What's wrong with a DVD? Almost same move, way more impact. Also the STF doesn't work for him. He doesn't hold his opponent right. in the face. I say use a different variation. One last thing, the top rope Leg Drop just doesn't work. Also, I disagree about giving everyone a shot as it reduces the title's value. When you have a small group of people who "deserve" the title after working their way up, it makes it look more important.
Those are my 2 cents (although from the length it looks like at least 3)
Posted by Guy Landau (hey TB :D) on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #12
Also, don't scoop to their level by insulting them back, it's called trolling and flaming and does no one good. They disrespect you, what do you care? And Kennedy has yet to REALLY impress me in the ring. take your own advice, and since this is the opinions section, don't bash people for disagreeing with you, say about the Kennedy thing. He isn't that crazy for saying that, a lot of people hold that opinion about Kennedy.
Posted by Guy Landau on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #13
Guy, hmmm someone who is smart is challenging me XD
Anyways, I do have in ring experience, trust me.
Maybe you are right about Show and the KO punch, I haven't really seen the size of him in person, but Khali>Big Show.
Rey is better than Morrison? Well you are wrong there. Whose fault is it that Ziggler has not held the IC belt? Rey's fault. Morrison is the best in WWE right now, and Rey is in WWE. Which means that John Morrison>Rey
Yea Randy does do stuff out of nowhere, like get Kennedy fired, which I believe is Randy's fault. One thing he did do right was stall Kofi's push.
Yea HHH's knee attacks are effective, but you are forgetting the fact that he has messed up knees. Like getting hit with a car would look effective, but at what cost?
Cena is a horrible wrestler, but not the worst.
Kennedy hasn't impressed you? Damn you are more strict than I am :P
Also, I enjoy responding back to them.
Posted by The Bouncer on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #14
True that Rey cost Ziggler the title, though not on purpose. He just wanted the title change to occur later, and it ended up not happening. But that doesn't make him a worse In Ring competitor. Regardless, in Pro Wrestling talent really is subjective, and that allows egos to be on the loose the way they are. I am interested to know, though, where did you wrestle? Definitely in a bigger company than the one I'm in, as we usually have 150 fans per show, half of which are family. Also, I've not said Kennedy hasn't impressed me or that he isn't good, but rather he is not one of the best in the ring in my book, and what makes him good is his natural charisma. What I meant to say was that Kennedy being bad in the ring is an opinion that many hold, regardless of whether or not I agree with it, I respect it as an opinion. True about HHH, but he really is the only one that knows just how bad of a shape his knees are in, and you can't deny him being intelligent, so that's really up to him. Now he is out because of a neck Injury, so it seems he knows how to protect his knees now. He usually pads them up really well. Khali's hand is around the size of Big Show's, probably a bit bigger, but what he did was never a punch. He just swung his hand at the opponent, but Big Show actually got a year's worth training on how to punch right to knock your opponent out.
Posted by Guy Landau on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #15
Bouncer, your article is pathetic. And judging by the comments, I am not alone.
Cena is a gimmick, and by the $$$ he is a very good one.
Undertaker not good enough for you? You got to be kidding. Hells gate, gogoplata : Undertaker does it perfectly. And you must be out of your mind to compare the great Taker with Chuck Pulombo.
Big Show, great at his size; still more a gimmick then a wrestler.
Rey Mysterio is a lucha libre legend. Not as good as his dad, (same name), but he is great. Also great with the kids. Works the crowd. Makes the money.
You complain about Orton getting people fired, wrong person, son. That has got to be HHH. Orton is a good wrestler, RKO is great. The only person that did it better is the late Test. Hardy only does it better at a height.
HHH, hate him all you want, it is his company (after VKM). Follow his rules. I may not like to work for WWE because of him, but as a wrestler, he is great. Extremely technical with a built up body. Also, he sells great on a mic. I just do not like him competing with others for spotlight and running the show the same time.
CM Punk is good. Reason he does GTS as a finisher : because he can. It is easy to carry it fireman style. Never used it in wrestling, but in the army I and my mate had 2 400 pounds guys on my back to run when my section got punished. (the 4 guys smoked, my Sect Com punished us by making us carry them, we are a conscript army in Singapore, and I was in the Obese platoon.) It is very difficult to scoop or carry. My Staff Sergeant told us that American soldiers are known to have carried 4 soldiers at a time in World war 2.
Edge, I agree.
What you did not put to account is the salability, the image, the impression and so on so forth. WWE trounce TNA because it is memorable. E.g. "I am the Miz and I'm AWESOOOMe". You remember that. You remember when MVP does "Bowling" or when Kofi does the "Boom drop".
TNA does not do that. Those that do have it from WWE.
TNA does not present itself as a lovely product. E.g. the Japanese are the masters of the Art of wrestling, no one better. (Yes they can trounce TNA any day) But nobody watch their wrestling shows as compared to WWE. Why?
Cause WWE knows how to sell. Whilst it is easy for me to talk about it, it is very difficult to do it in real life. That is where WWE excels.
Posted by PreetSG on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #16
TB, honestly, I've never liked a single thing you've written and why in god's name they let you continue writing articles is beyond me.
It wasn't Rey's fault Ziggler didn't get the title...from what I've heard, Mr. Ziggles was supposed to win the title before Rey got in crap, so stop blaming him.
....and the rest of what you've said it unintelligible ranting and raving that is your opinion at best, honestly quit while your ahead.
P.S.: Rey Mysterio is wrestling under his Uncles name not his Dad's name PreetSG
Posted by Gravedigger on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #17
If you're older than me you certainly don't show it. In fact, it seems you've been a bit hypocritical in skimming through my comment before you replied - I said DiBiase, Morrison and maybe Ziggler (though not with the current Cougar-dating gimmick) would be fine to break the streak. That is, if anyone does. Personally I'd be happy if Undertaker finished at 20-0, assuming he stops at that point, I think he deserves to retire with the streak untarnished.
Masters is on his 2nd wellness policy strike, i.e. one more and he's gone for good. Nothing to do with him leaving the company, and so nothing to do with Jericho. I'd argue with you further, but you've clearly got no scope for changing your mind, so I won't waste my time, just wanted to clear those points up.
Guy - Very good comment, but you didn't get round to explaining why Mysterio is better than Morrison, and I'd be genuinely interested in seeing how you dissect that, as a wrestler. I'd agree, but only just. I'd say Morrison's next big push could make him a Mysterio-level star, after his matches with Hardy and Mysterio himself in the last year. Both on Smackdown and worthy of a PPV, and Morrison was by no means carried in either match.
Posted by The General on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #18
I didn't like this article either. It may he opinion but you go too harsh on them if you know what I mean.
Kennedy- To be honest I couldn't careless if he was in WWE he was a bore.
Randy Orton- My fave wrestler. Why? Because he is interesting. His RKO is awesome and his gimmick is awesome aswell.
Rey- He proved to everyone that cruiserweights are just as good as heavyweights.
Chris Jericho- Everytime I see him he's always heel. I've only seen him face when he returned. Yes he's a great competitor.
Edge- he is a jar.
John Cena- He is the face of the company but I personally think he needs a gimmick change. But the fans love him.
Big Show- He can be face and heel and still nail the gimmick perfectly. The KO punch is a great finisher as it shows dominance in my opinion.
Oh look I've done an article lol. But seriously mate don't go too deep on your opinions or don't report them. :-)
Posted by TBH on Sunday, July 04, 2010
Comment #19
Alright, TB, we're close, and this is nothing personal, but this article kinda sucks. I agree with GL on everything except one thing...
Rey Mysterio is NOT better than John Morrison in any way, shape, or form. That's all I have to say.
Posted by Chris Fire on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #20
Triple H boring on the mic? you must be smoking something really bad, seriously thats the only thing he do well, i dont care for his matches, but he is really good on the mic and can sell a feud.
Taker as a fail? I won't even ...just...i hope you are drunk
Cena boring on the mic? thats probably the only good thing he has, he is gold on the microphone, and im a cena hater.
rko a bad finisher? is sneaky and the way he performs it is excellent, is fake as hell but he does a great job selling it.
regal, shad, stg, ziggler to finish the streak....*facepalms*
This must have been the worst article i have seen ever
Posted by manuel taker on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #21
PreetSG, it is pathetic? Hmm it what way?
Yea all Cena is would be a gimmick. And not even a good 1.
Just because Undertaker has been with the company for a long time doesn't mean he is good. He bores me. I can predict almost everything he says or does. He takes forever to get to the ring. And I apologize for insulting Chuck Palumbo by comparing him to Taker.
Big Show heel>Big Show face
Lucha Libre legend? All of the Mexicools are better.
Orton got Kennedy fired.
ok I will hate HHH all I want
Yea CM Punk is good, but why didn't he hit Mark Henry with a finisher not too long ago? Instead he did a kick to head, but I have never seen him win a match with that kick every again.
And yea I agree on what you said at the end.
General, I saw that you said that, but you still didn't answer me. Who do you want to end the streak? Who is your #1 choice? And I don't think his streak should live on forever. That could easily push someone.
Gravedigger, you always make me laugh. You hate reading these articles, yet you have read almost all of them. I don't know why, it is just hilarious. And Rey did cost him his title. Rey was just too greedy to give him the deserving push. And now he threatens to quit so WWE gives him the WHC.
comment #18, Kennedy is a bore and Orton is your favorite? Did I tell you about the aliens???? I already knew that size doesn't matter, I did not need Rey to do anything about it. Heel works better with Jericho. I am a fan and I don't love Cena. Big Show doesn't really go good with face.
CF, care to say why it sucks?
Manuel Taker, HHH is good on the mic and can sell a feud? To me it sounds like you have no idea what you are saying. Who uses the term sell a feud? Like I know what it means, but whatever. HHH's feuds are garbage and his segments are crap. Wanna know when he was actually entertaining? In the REAL DX, not the crappy DX. The real DX is HHH, HBK, Chyna, Billy Gunn, X-Pac, & Road Dogg. Luckily the crappy DX split.
You want me to be drunk? Maybe because you wanna prove that Taker is so bad that even a drunk person could see that he sucks?
Cena has nothing good about him.
Want a good example of sneaky? Edge's spear.
Regal, Shad, & Ziggler are worthy of ending the streak. Who do you want to end the streak?
AND WHO THE HELL IS STG?!?!
Posted by The Bouncer on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #22
look dude no one likes what u said therefore ur areticles are crap and im not afraid to put my name nobody puts their name geniuse and apparently ur afraid to argue cuz u only wrote one sentence
Posted by comment #4 on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #23
Dude, you are only hating on Ortan coz he got Kennedy fired and you didn't even back up your point, gather the rights FACTS why how where when and shit don't just say stuff you cannot back up.
Posted by SammyJoneSJr on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #24
comment #4 & #24, noone puts their name? I put my name, Gravedigger put his name, Guy Landau put his name, Chris Fire put his name, The General put their name, and nobody puts their name? Yes I am terrified to argue and I only wrote 1 sentence. Look at all the people I responded to. By the way, you only wrote 1 sentence in your last post. My 1st response to you had 2 sentences. See guys, he hates my articles and cannot count. See a connection?
Posted by The Bouncer on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #25
counting and and aricle hating have now connection stupid
Posted by the dog on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #26
see nobody likes u u cnt right articles if u tried
Posted by comment #4 on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #27
Okay. We all get it. You, sir, are a genious, and we all are all nimrods. Yes, this is an opinion section article. No, we don't have to agree with your opinions. You don't have to agree with ours either. Still, you have to back up your opinions with reasons. You can predict what Undertaker is going to say and do? I think we can predict what ANY WWE star is going to say/do. I don't understand your need to insult anyone, least of all the wrestlers you claim to watch. You know, I can predict all day long what Bryan Danielson, Sabu, Taz, Sheamus are going to say/do. Doesn't mean they are crappy wrestlers. Triple H? Real DX? If you really knew wrestling history, you'd know that the REAL DX consisted of Triple H, Chyna, Rick Rude and...Mr. HBK himself, Shawn Michaels. You think the Spear is sneaky? And, the RKO isn't? The spear is lame. It was lame when Goldberg did it, it was lame when Batista did it, and it's lame when Edge does it. Honestly, he has two BETTER finishers in the Edgecution and the Edgeomatic. WHO CARES if Orton got Kennedy fired? Kennedy is a mid-carder at best, and a jobber at worst. Get out of here. And, even if Morrison IS better than Rey, I'd like you to explain to all of us how you can say that Morrison is the BEST in the WWE. Why do you even watch WWE? Seriously, you apparently hate every main-eventer...So, I just don't understand. Do you watch it, just so you can run it down later? Hmmph. And, I thought you were a fan. I'm going to assume you are a Attitude-era mark, b/c you are so high on the Hardy's. Well, Matt sucks, and Jeff is a junkie. What do you know about entertaining wrestlers? What do you know about Sabu, Cactus Jack, RVD, Abdullah the Butcher, Terry Funk, Big Van Vader, or Taz? What do you know about wrestlers who have changed the business? What do you know about wrestlers who have carried WWE through it's rough periods, like Cena is now? Nothing. Go play with your toys, kid. Leave the opinions to people who matter, and at least think things through. Oh, and please explain to me how the Diamond Cutter is better than the RKO...cause, as I see it, it's the same move...
Posted by TwiztidTequilaThomas on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #28
comment #4, lol you think I don't know that you are "the dog"? And it just proves that people like you were dropped. And one more thing, LEARN TO SPELL!!! See guys, someone who hates my articles can't count or spell.
T.T.T, LMAO I got you pissed didn't I? Now thank you for putting me in a good mood. Now I will respond to you similar to how you respnded to me...
I can predict what the Undertaker is going to say and do...
months before I can predict what guys like Ziggler or Morrison will do. I don't think we can predict what EVERY WWE star is going to say/do. I don't understand your need to insult anyone, least of all article writers. You know I can predict all day long what Undertaker and John Cena will do, it means they are crappy wrestlers. Why did you randomly say Triple H? HHH, Chyna, Rick Rude, & HBK better than HHH, HBK, Chyna, Road Dogg, X-Pac, & Billy Gunn? If you really knew wrestling history, you'd know the real DX consisted of HHH, Chyna, Road Dogg, HBK, X-Pac, & Billy Gunn. You think the RKO is sneaky? And the Spear isn't? The RKO is lame. It was lame when DDP did it (but DDP still>RKO). And SCREW YOU, I HATE BATISTA, AND HIS SPEAR IS HORRIBLE!! Edgecution and Edgomatic are finishers??? Really? I CARE THAT ORTON GOT KENNEDY FIRED!!! He was underrated. You are making it sound like Morrison is neither the best in WWE or better than Rey? Damn kid do you also think you are suppose to unlock doors to keep people out and lock doors to let people in? Morrison is the best on the mic and in the ring in current WWE. He did something that hardly anyone can do; he made a match with Jeff Hardy entertaining. I bet he could make a match with HHH or Cena entertaining. Why did you even read my article? Seriously, you apparently hate every word I say. And I don't hate EVERY regular. When did I say I hate Edge? Get your facts straight. Do you read it just so that you can run it down later? I do enjoy Attitude Era over PG era. Does that mean I could never watch WWE ever again?? AND SCREW YOU, I AM NOT A METH HARDY FAN, but Matt Hardy is actually o.k, but not one I would like to see get a push before Morrison. Now you think I hate Sabu, Mick Foley (all 4), Terry Fun, Tazz, & Vader? Wait wait, what makes you sound even more idiotic is that you think I have R.V.D. Yea he did make a bad decision by going to TNA, but COME ON!!! Like me saying you hate the world. Wanna know who changed the business in a bad way? Linda McMahon. It is her fault WWE is in the PG mess. Cena is not carrying WWE through rough periods, in fact he is a PG supporter. Then you think I am like 6, even though I am probably older than you, and I hate Cena. By the way, do you know what an Oxy Moron is? When someone contradicts something they say. Read your last 2 sentences and see how retarded you sound. Unless you of course are implying that I matter, which I of course do. Wanna know why DC>RKO? Because it is not all the move itself, but it is delivery. Look at the way DDP delivers the DC and Orton delivers the RKO.
Wow that comment was fun to respond to.
Posted by The Bouncer on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #29
29 comments on one article ?!!?
i think its pretty obvious by now that the author of this article is as adamant as a rock. He clearly believes that his opinions are all that matter and what everyone else says is crap.
Dude, fine by me. I dont care eitherways. I just hope u never become a politician - whichever country you belong to.
One last comment about Cena.
If i'm not mistaken his whole "soldier" persona started around the time of 9/11 didnt it ? I believe the whole "Superman" attitude was created for that very reason. To give the people hope. Something to believe in. To reaffirm their belief that nothing can bring America down no matter the obstacles. If u think abt it, wasnt Superman also created around the time of the Great Depression ?
I may be completely off target of course but thats just my opinion.
Posted by Ragnarok on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #30
Ragnarok, not everyone else's opinions are crap, like Guy Landau has good points. And I stand proudly by my opinions. And he debuted in like 2002, not 2001.
Posted by The Bouncer on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #31
Sorry guys I made little mistakes on my article, let me fix them.
"His knockout punch should not be a finisher, but should it be for a few of the powerhouses?"
I meant chokeslam not KO punch, a mistake on my behalf. Also, he should use the final cut as a finisher again.
"It his his fault that Dolph Ziggler never got the Intercontinental Championship"
I meant to say that it IS his fault.
"Maybe he was behind the firing of Mike Knox, Elijah Burke, D 'Lo Brown, Jesse Tony Atlas,"
I forgot a comma in that sentence.
"Because some people still cheer for him, by his merchandise, and ask for him for the Make A Wish Foundation."
I put by instead of buy.
I am sorry for making minor mistakes. And before people say "well you forgot the negative before the one on the Undertaker paragraph", let me say that it was INTENTIONAL!!
Posted by The Bouncer on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #32
@TB: Dude the point i was trying to make is that u refuse to accept others' opinions. In most of the above comments anyone who has gone against ur opinions has recieved scathing comments from u. Uve got this insistence that u and u alone are the voice of truth.
As for Cena, didnt the "War on Terror" start in 2002 when Bush started sending American soldiers to Afghanistan and Iraq by the hordes ? The whole "saluting the troops" thing happened around that time.
Posted by Ragnarok on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #33
Ragnarok, listen to the way people tell me their opinions. Like "You think Zack Ryder is good? Go to hell!!" or "Your on weed if you think this way, druggy". I have a right to defend myself XD
Do you think that gimmick would go good for 8 years? People got sick from that gimmick on 2006, and more have grown sick over the years. I do not know what everyone sees in him.
Posted by The Bouncer on Monday, July 05, 2010
Comment #34
So just coz everyone else is acting childish means u have to as well ???
As for Cena, what people ?!!? The only people who i knw hate Cena are those who still cling to the Attitude Era and refuse to accept the changes that the WWE has gone through. In those days it was "good" to be "bad". The WWE catered primarily to the young adults and those who've been fans for ages. Now they've realised the potential of kids and so cater to them alone. It was and always will be a business. If ur so interested in watching "real" wrestling go watch the actual grappling contests. Dont complain when u dont get what u want. McMahon knows its a business and treats it as such. He knows the selling power of guys like Cena, Rey and the Undertaker and so runs his business accordingly.
Posted by Ragnarok on Tuesday, July 06, 2010
Comment #35
TB, I don't feel like going into detail, as I don't have a lot of time, so I'll just sum it up quickly.
The Big Show is really boring, in my opinion, and he really doesn't deserve to be a "regular," as you call them. He may have been interesting back in WCW, but his time has come and gone. The only good thing about him is the K.O. Punch, which you insulted. His mic skills are mediocre. While he may be agile for a man his size, he just isn't that amazing by anyone's standards.
Mysterio is overrated. I said it. He's a crappy worker from what I heard, always demanding a pay raise and stuff like that. (I'm just basing this off some reports I read a while back, sorry if I'm completely off on this.) You said he finishes most matches with the roll-up? I don't really think he does. He pins just like every other wrestler on the roster. (Except Maryse :P) Sure, Morrison may be better in the ring, but he lacks Mic Skills, and you know as well as I do, until he improves them, he's never gonna be a "regular."
Oh my god TB, don't take offense to this, but this is the stupidest thing I've ever read. It's obviously biased because he got your mid-card, injury prone idiot fired. Mr. Kennedy wasn't only fired because he botches every move he attempts, but because every three months he's hurt... Again. But anyway, back to your article, The RKO is the best finisher in the WWE right now. It fits PERFECTLY with his gimmick. He's "The Viper." That means he slithers around and strikes when you're not looking. He RKOs people when they're back is turned, and he slithers on the ground before the move. Fits him perfectly. And as someone already said, the spear blows. By the way, He's pretty decent on the microphone. I don't know what you're listening to.
I hate Triple H as much as the next guy (Let's just hope the next guy isn't Vinnie Mac), however, the dude's talented. He has a good eye for business (pushing Sheamus. However, I can't say the same for Drew McIntyre..) and he's great on the mic. He's certainly not BORING at all. Sure, his gimmick needs to be revamped, or changed completely, but he's not boring. He's afraid to push new talent that don't ride his jockstraps, that's true. But he's good in the ring and great on the mic. He might not deserve to be a "regular" but he's not nearly as bad as you said.
Wow, I typed more than I hoped to. I'll finish my thoughts at a later time.
~Chris
Posted by Chris Fire on Tuesday, July 06, 2010
Comment #36
Ragnarok, You have to understand, I enjoy responding to people. Also, just because I prefer the attitude era doesn't mean I can't watch WWE ever again.
I didn't mean to insult the KO punch, I meant the Chokeslam. :P But the KO punch still isn't that good of a finisher because he could hit it whenever he wants. He should go back to the Final Cut.
Fine not exactly most matches, but did you see his feud with Batista? Like 2/3 matches ended in a roll-up. And when Morrison has a segment, they are the best segments in the show. And his matches, well he could make any match entertaining.
No offense taken, but Orton got Kennedy fired. If Orton didn't cry to Vince then Kennedy wouldn't have gotten fired. Best finisher in WWE? To me it is an annoying move. He doesn't put the head under the arm 1st (like the ToF), so it looks like there is no damage at all. And you like people slithering on the ground before a move. Scotty 2 Hotty's worm? Do you like that move? And by your logic alot of moves can be sneaky. JTG's finisher is sneaky sometimes. So is Matt Hardy's. Then you of course get John Cena's finisher. They mostly reverse random moves to that finisher.
Yea I admit pushing Sheamus and Drew McIntyre are good, but he is still boring on the mic. Have you seen his segments recently? Well I haven't because I stopped watching RAW (HHH one of the reasons). But I saw his DX segment on SD on Christmas. It was the #1 bathroom break of the show. Not even The Hart Dynasty, not even Jericho, not even a heel Big Show could make that segment entertaining. And I agree he does not deserve to be a regular.
Posted by The Bouncer on Tuesday, July 06, 2010
Comment #37
I Dont want to type one of these 8 paragraph comments. I Find comments that are too long boring. Anyways This is a very interesting Idea for an Article but it is just too bias. Yes I am angry that Orton got Kennedy fired. But Orton is a great wrestler with a finisher that does match his gimmick. Big Show I agree, I did enjoy him as a heel. Just stay AWAY from Jericho AND Miz. I Dont really enjoy Rey-Rey. But he IS a good superstar. He is good at making his size work with AND against him in the ring. You just seem too angry that Ziggler didnt win the IC Title from him. HHH, I pretty much disagree with why you hate him. He is talented and good on the mic.
Once again I dont want to take foreer so I will just say...
THE REASON THESE GUYS ARE REGULARS IS BECAUSE OF THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Triple H = Lots of money
Rey = Lots of Money
Orton= Lots of money
Edge = Lots of $
Show = Lots of $
Jericho = Lots of MONEY
Cena = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Taker = MONEY times LOTS
Punk = $!$!$!$!$!!$!$!$!$!$
Seriously, I could go to WWE and be a santino marella, but if I were to make money I would be in the main event, even if I only used 2 moves
Posted by Kwame Sakoy on Tuesday, July 06, 2010
Comment #38
Kwame, Orton got Kennedy fired, enough said. HHH is boring on the mic. Ziggler has held 1 title, but not even in this gimmick. HHH is boring on the mic. This is WWE we are talking about. They could make most of the fans like and buy merchandise from whichever superstar they like.
And Santino has more moves than Cena.
Posted by The Bouncer on Wednesday, July 07, 2010
Comment #39
Sure Kennedy got fired cause of Orton stop harping on it, but from the footage I see, Kennedy dropped Orton on his newly healed shoulder, Kennedy is a stiff worker, very stiff, and he just was too stiff on the wrong guy on the wrong night.
Posted by Gravedigger on Thursday, July 08, 2010
Comment #40
TB we get it you love Kennedy. I personally think that you should stop writing articles if you don't watch 'today's' WWE because you're just hating on it. Your hating other's opinions and are challenging people about them.
And no you didn't tell me about the aliens.
Posted by The British Hawk on Sunday, July 11, 2010
Comment #41
I enjoy reading your articles just for hilariously bad they are. You keep clinging to old facts, and don't move on.
"Orton got Kennedy fired" that was in May. A year ago.
"Rey didn't wanna give Drew the title!!" That was in August I think. In 2009.
And even if you "like" to comment on other peoples comments, then that just gives us lurkers all the more reason to laugh at you. In your attempts to naming the same things over and over again, while bashing everybody who doesn't have your opinion. Here's hoping for your next article to be better!
Posted by I don't need to give you my name. :| on Thursday, July 22, 2010