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Hola and welcome to the second edition of The Chemical Reaction. First off, I did have an idea for this article and I had it all planned out but then I read a comment on my other article from some reader who shall remain unnamed who suggested I write my next article on overrated finishers, but they also assumed I would only include TNA finishers which in all honesty annoyed me a bit. So I wracked my brain trying to think of 10 finishers that are made out to be amazing when in factuality they aren’t that amazing. Many of the moves on here are performed by many different wrestlers both in WWE and TNA so I will also mention that. Well on we go, are you ready?
Finisher 10 : Double Arm DDT In all honesty I do love the look of this move but I can’t actually imagine it doing much damage. One person I know who uses this is Mick Foley, I know there is probably lots more people who do use it as a finisher, this is at number 10 because it is very simple and wouldn’t do any damage at all, but it can be made to look quite cool, one such instance was when Foley performed it on Alex Shelley and he ended up kind of in a V shape, but then everything Shelley does is amazing so there you go.
Finisher 9 : Knock Out Punch/ Club This finisher is just horrible, it isn’t even a finisher, it is just a punch in Big Shows case but a swinging club in Khali’s case. I don’t know why they took away Big Show’s choke slam from back in the day, I loved that move! I know it was simple and lots of the bigger wrestlers have a choke slam but why change the classics? In my opinion the knock out punch is just a horrible, horrible move.
Finisher 8 : Any Form Of Scissor Kick Now here is one with lots of options that spring to mind. You could have Booker T’s scissor kick which seems to end a lot of matches surprisingly, I couldn’t imagine it doing very much damage at all and he has performed it awfully. Another version that springs to mind is Billy Gunn’s Fame-Asser from back in day(I know he has used it in TNA but I haven’t actually seen him fight so I can’t call it).
Finisher 7 : Big Boot Whether it is Matt Morgan’s Carbon Footprint, Angelina Love’s Botox Injection or any other form of big boot, it should just be stopped. It isn’t a hard move to pull off and it looks horrible unless performed on a truly great wrestler who can sell it and make it look it amazing, but sadly in WWE and TNA those kinds of guys are far and few between. Get another finisher!
Finisher 6 : DDT How many versions of this move are we going to have to see before it gets old? Well that’s a trick question because it has already gotten old for me. 2 wrestlers with this finisher spring to mind and that is Consequences Creed and Cody Rhodes but I know many, many, many wrestlers use it as a basis and that is what it is ok for. It is understandable starting off with it when you first begin wrestling but when you get better you really do need a better finisher. (I’m not sure if Rhodes still uses it, it has been a long time since I’ve seen him wrestle).
Finisher 5 : New Pedigree I know this will no doubt cause some controversy and in the end that is what makes people read. But in all honesty I do believe Triple H’s new version of the pedigree is just horrible, I know it isn’t his fault, what with his bad knees and everything but I really could imagine the old version doing some real damage (I know, my brother nearly broke my nose when I was smaller using that move), but now it just wouldn’t do anything. For any of the newer wrestling watches who haven’t noticed the difference or have only seen the newer version I will explain both. The old version involved Triple H putting his opponent head in between his legs and he would
Finisher 4 : Code Breaker/ Back Stabber Don’t get me wrong, I love any move that involves the knees connecting with an opponents body, I even have a one kneed face breaker as my finisher on TWG, well one of them, it is ok having it on a game as you can give it a really high damage but in reality I don’t think it would do any where near enough damage to put someone down for the pin or even put um down for any kind of count, it is not the kind of move that can really put someone to the floor as you could just recover just after impact and stand up straight, I know wrestlers don’t do that because they need to make it look awesome, but it just isn’t.
Finisher 3 : Styles Clash I have no idea what this move is actually called, the only version I know is Aj’s, oh and that diva from WWE who does it too, I do love the way it looks and it does have potential to be modified (maybe form the top rope or some other high thing) but It causes no damage what so ever, the opponents body doesn’t even touch the floor, AJ absorbs all the impact into his knees which if he continues to do he will end up with rubbishy knees like Triple H.
Finisher 2 : Best Moon Sault Ever As performed by Daniels (once known as Christopher Daniels, does anyone know why they changed it?).
Finisher 1 : wait for it, The Swanton Bomb This should get a fair few comments, I love Jeff Hardy and I love everything he has done outside of wrestling (he is an accomplished artist and is also in a band), but I don’t think the Swanton bomb really has the damage doing ability, fair enough it looks flashy and is synonymous with him, but it could so easily go wrong and it has done in the past, I’ve got nothing more to say on this move.
Well there you have it, I’m sure you lot out there will have opinions whether contrasting or in agreement so I would like to know them! I think I speak for any kind of writer ever, receiving good comments is one of the best feeling ever and getting the negative ones help you improve so long as you take them on board and for everyone that commented on my other article thank you, it was appreciated very much indeed. Now if any of you have ideas for Articles you would like to see then just say, I have lots of my own ideas and so should be able to do my own thing for a while, but giving the fans what they want has always been my philosophy so yeah. Now since I am a TNAddict through and through I will quickly talk about Slammiversary and my opinions on it. First I thought that Angelina would retain the title, she has not had it long enough. I was happy that suicide retained the X division title but I would of liked to have seen it go to one of the guns as they are my favourites, I think Abyss and Taylor Wilde’s match was really good though I am not entirely sure who won that( I live in the UK and so get PPVs aired to me on the Wednesday after), I only know the results from word of mouth really, I wanted Beer Money to become Champs again and they didn’t disappoint. I didn’t really care who won the match between Daniels and Douglas as they wouldn’t let Daniels go ever so that was an easy match to call. I was very, very surprised to hear that Angle won the KOTM match as I was certain it would go to Jarrett (Joe and Angle are possibly leaving and AJ already has a title). I really can not wait until I get to watch it. Well this has been The Chemical Reaction to my most Overrated Finishers, hope you enjoyed, and Keep It Rockin’! Views: 1,568 
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Comment # 1
Hey OctoberRaven you said some good things here =P there are just some things i dont agree...
First, what you say for the KO punch, and the big boot is ok... but come on... many people use it as a normal move, one that the oponent just get up after that and continues the fight... how come the same move by other people knocks out??
What you said about the swanton was actually a mistery to me... why jeff hardy doing it yes?? (i supose that you are saying that he doing it it becomes overrated)
And when you say "cena's finisher" you are talking about the 5 knuckle shuffle, or the FU??
Last but not least, the styles clash,yeah.. it is a good move, it really can damage, but... come on... it needs a little cooperation of the oponent dont you think?? for me it looks REALLY fake... if anyone tries, i am pretty sure that they may be able to avois it, by grabing the opponent legs, or anything like that...
Thinking better about it... what move couldnt be evaded with some hits... just forget what i said above...
Posted by Caio "Lo Mestre" on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 2
I quite like the Double Arm DDT, and to name ANY sort of DDT on the list is kind of bogus. I mean, technically, you could call any suplex-set up move that has the opponent's head hit the mat like that a DDT (including the Brainbuster, which is technically a suplex-DDT). The others are spot-on, though.
Great read.
Posted by Cthulu on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 3
John Cena's Attitude Adjustment finisher is overrated as well. Simply put, it is a standing fireman's carry takedown, which some of the old timers used to perhaps stun their opponent.
Posted by dare2believe on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 4
i completely agree with you especially with the swanton bomb way overrated the play maker should of been up there also but good article
Posted by Mexican Afro on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 5
its a good list and well define answers why you don't like the maneuvers. Also to Dare2Believe, The Attitude Adjustment isn't overrated, nor the leg drop, or people elbows. WhY? We all know they are terrible finishers. The entire internet wrestling community know they are bad finishers, lot of mainstream knows they are bad finishers. But they get the job done.
Posted by CZwrestler on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 6
Tho in dare2believe's defence I was gonna put the attitude adjustment on there, It slipped my mind when I was writing it and it wasn't till i had submitted it that I realised my mistake, but yeah I'm liking your comments =]
Posted by Astatine on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 7
Have you ever taken a codebreaker? I work as a indy wrestler in chicago il, and my finisher is a codebreaker, and let my tell you it does a lot more damage than it looks like it does.
Posted by SARIEL on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 8
Really? and obviously I haven't so i wouldn't know but I'l take your word for it Sariel.Thanks for the comment to
Posted by Astatine on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 9
I still wonder how an RKO would do any damage... Orton falls while his opponent's head is securely wrapped by his arm.
It looks cool though.
Posted by spot on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 10
Why does everybody always forget one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen? The 619 is pure dumb. For how long they lay on the ropes while he stands there looking at the crowd like "What should I do now?" and then starts running, he could have pinned them already. That, and nobody can figure out if they're suppose to fall down afterwords so he can do a splash or stand up so he can do a west cost pop. It's just...stupid
Posted by SJ Pandora on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 11
John Cena finisher is overrated (don't get me wrong I'm a Cena fan and I love it when he hits The Attidune Adjustment) or The Walls Of Jericho (Jericho fan too so don't get me wrong) its just an elevated boston crab
Posted by Tony Vinceti on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 12
I agree greatly with all of the above, great stuff
Posted by SimonTheSly1 on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 13
The list would have been better if you replaced the Swanton Bomb with the Attitude Adjudstment
Posted by Rider on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 14
Rider, I agree with you completely, I was kicking myself when i forgot to mention the Attitude Adjustment, it was a genuine mess-up on my part. and oh yeah the new walls of jericho suck, i want him to revert to how he used to do it(when he would put one knee into their back), those days were awesome, and also, I'm pretty sure Rey tells his opponent what he wants um to do when he hits the 619.
Posted by Astatine on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 15
I enjoyed the list. Glad to see someone else who feels the way I do about the pedigree. I didnt get to see the old version, but the current just doesn't look like it would do anything unless you were already out cold before it hit. Otherwise you land and get back up. Mexican Afro, you took the words out of my mouth regarding the playmaker. We learned that move in a martial arts class I took as part of a long sequence of "movie martial arts" moves. Things that look pretty but would never fly in the real world. I can say from experience that it doesn't hurt to have it done to you. Keep em coming.
Posted by Nomad on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 16
dun like this article, it's half-false and completely expression of unprofessional wrestling opinion.
Swanton Bomb, it can be used in any altitude, espically from top of Titantron, I believe it was most deveasting move when Jeff Hardy did that to Randy Orton.
Codebreaker? it can be used anytime, anywhere even out of blue. you should have picked Shelton's finisher which is most gayest finishing move I ever seen, Shelton takes more damages hitting his back on the ground while opponent just land on shelton, look really idiotic even for gold standard.
Want worst moves? here: GTS (CMP sucks period), clothesline from Hell (it can be used anytime, but it's a finisher? that's just stupid), Big Show's Ko, Koslov's finisher (he had to carry the opponent just to do reverse ddt? oh GOD!! it's not even in right motion!), John Cena's AA, no duh, Christian's Killswitch (I dun like it, sorry), Mickie James' DDT (like... it mess up easily, and Divas can't wrestle for shyt, only Melina, Trish, Lita, and Chyna can), and R-Truth, it's just showy, not even like damn good one at all
Posted by AJ Wacko on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 17
I agree with Rider
I have had both of those moves done to me and I have done both of those moves to others and the Swanton Bomb actually hurts compared to the Attitude Adjustment (Gay Name) actually doesnt hurt that much.
And I could be wrong but if the Double Arm DDt was done by lifting them and landing them on the top of their head instead of their faces it would hurt a lot worse. Otherwise he could do it off the top rope. And Matt Morgan's Running Bicycle Kick just looks awesome.
The Codebreaker might actually not hurt that much but the Backstabber hurts like hell, I don't believe it is that overrated.
And i totally agree with the Scissor kick, The New Pedigree, The DDT, The BME, The Styles Clash, and The KO Punch (Retarded)
Anyways a great article imo and I can't wait for the next one :)
Posted by Bruce Hardy on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 18
The Walls of Jericho overrated? Uh uh man, you need to take one. Nobody uses the Boston Crab anymore, so it is unique.
Posted by Crazymadmime on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 19
To AJ Wacko, you think the GTS sucks?
How would you feel if you've taken a botched one and ended up with possibly a messed-up nose? Because it happened before.
Posted by F-X on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 20
How many wrestlers have used the boston crab over the years? the walls of jericho was unique and now it isn't i don't think, I know noone uses it but still
Posted by Astatine on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 21
How many wrestlers have used the boston crab over the years? the walls of jericho was unique and now it isn't i don't think, I know noone uses it but still
Posted by Astatine on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 22
Believe it or not that backstabber is painful it does more damage than your making look like
Posted by Spanky on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 23
I don't know why it double posted up there, anyways, I'm a 16 year old kid, I have never stepped inside a ring,this article included moves that I didn't think would hurt but I have been told they do hurt... a lot, so that was my mistake sorry bout that
Posted by Astatine on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 24
What on earth were you thinking putting the Codebreaker and the Backstabber on that list?
This article is a very bad one though some of the finishers are correct, there is no Attitude Adjustment on this list.
I'm an amateur wrestler, I step in the ring every week for someone like you to tell me that the moves me and some of my pals use are weak and overrated.
Don't call yourself a fan, you're just a kid who thinks he can do more than what he's actually capable of.
And your love of TNA interferes with the article too much.
What a waste of good potential.
Not you, the article. Someone could have made something good out of this. And you ruined it.
Posted by Mr. Kennedy.... Kennedy. on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 25
Yeah, I agree with Kennedy.
This article sucks!
"but they also assumed I would only include TNA finishers which in all honesty annoyed me a bit." You're an idiot, "Oh, I'm so annoyed! I'm gonna sit here and cry like the diva I am!"
Get a life, loser.
Posted by ThE mAn Of StEeL on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 26
i personally belive the most overated finisher is vladimir kozlov's headbut it dosent look very painful or even flashy he just rams them in the chest
Posted by neotamagachi on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 27
my top 5 list:
5 pedigree (hhh)
4 battery ram (koslov)
3 ko punch (big show/khali)
2 the FU (cena)
1 the atomic leg drop (hogan)
but of course i kinda hate all of those wrestlers :P
Posted by manuel taker on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 28
you should of put ortons punt there
Posted by matt on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 29
yea, the backstabber hurts like hell, and if you just had a match, your not getting back up
Posted by wtf on Thursday, July 02, 2009
Comment # 30
I think te swanton bomb and Daniels' BME are painful just because of gravity pulling a 200 pound person onto them.
Also I think Jeff Jarret's old "Stroke" was overated because he slams his own face into the mat at the same time. Nice list anyways.
Posted by Aj Alejandro on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 31
i agree with alejandero about the pain factor on a swanton. i have done backyard wrestling and i have been hit with a swanton bomb and it causes alot of pain especially if hit right in the center of the stomach and chest.
Posted by Big-B on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 32
ok, i gott say, someone needs a legdrop on here. I mean, i like hogan, and I understand the pop he gets fromit, but still, it wouldn't hurt. even if you've got a 300+ pond guy doing it. I agree with the swanton, although t's not overrated, it just wouldn't hurt much
Posted by the ultimate killer on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 33
Very good. I'm very impressed. Every finisher you gave a very strong reason y. And the Swanton bomb is very fake. The Twist of fake lands on their face. And on almost every one they scoot closer to the turnbuckle. Jeff Hardy is very fake. Every move I, may I repeat, I could revise all of his moves, well most anyways. And moonsaults are painful to both people. Like the 5 star splash. Finally, I don't watch TNA so what is the Style Clash??? Is it Michell McCool finisher?
Posted by Jonathan Simpson on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 34
Maan... some guys here need to read the other comments before doing one... he said that he havent ever stepped in a ring, and that he could be wrong about some of the finishers...
Great article (for your experience), but i think that you should chosse more carefully the subjects you write, to avoid this tipe of confusion, you should write only about things that you KNOW, not about things that you THINK like this one
Anyway, hope this helps you in your next articles, keep doing a good job ^^
Posted by Caio "Lo Mestre" on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 35
How can the Swanton Bomb be the worst? HAVE YOU NOT SEEN WHERE HE USES THE MOVE?!!? You say the Styles Clash can be better if its higher up, but A FORWARD FLIP off a top rope, a ladder, the stage, or ANY OTHER HIGH AREA JEFF CAN GET ON, is the worst? Besides that, I would agree that the Big Boot, DDT, KO Punch/Club, and Moonsault are all basic moves and should not be finishers unless they made it even more awesome looking
Posted by Leon Heartfield on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 36
Wow. This list is... completely and totally unagreeable. There's only ONE I agree with you on.
Finisher 10 : Double Arm DDT
-See DDT.
Finisher 9 : Knock Out Punch/ Club
-Wow. You could NOT be more wrong on this. Ever watch real fighting? A clean punch to the jaw or face can knock someone out. It's been proven in countless situations. Also, a sudden strike to the face is an excellent finisher... it comes out of nowhere and difficult to dodge or block. Also, closed fists are SUPPOSED to be illegal, so there's potential heel heat there. You want to call this a bad finisher? Ask Fedor Emelianenko to punch you in the jaw as hard as he can and tell me what you think then.
Finisher 8 : Any Form Of Scissor Kick
-First, Gunn's finisher isn't a scissor kick, it's a legdrop style bulldog. Also, scissor kicks are excellent. Swinging your leg like an executioner's axe to the back of the opponent's head? If done for real, that can knock someone out.
Finisher 7 : Big Boot
-See Knockout Punch.
Finisher 6 : DDT
-WTF?! It's a sweeping drop to the crown of the head, and can be done in the blink of an eye. It's a standard for a reason.
Also, Jake Roberts would like a word with you.
Finisher 5 : New Pedigree
-People are landing on their knees to avoid injuring their noses. It's not to make it a knee attack; it's making the move safer. Some make it too obvious. The Pedigree in itself is a good finisher.
Finisher 4 : Code Breaker/ Back Stabber
-Agree with this one. It's a good transitional move but I dont care for it as a finisher. Also the proper name for it is lungblower.
Finisher 3 : Styles Clash
-Nothing wrong with it at all. You drop your opponent chestfirst and add your body weight to it, rolling them into a pin.
Finisher 2 : Best Moon Sault Ever
-WTF?! Moonsaults are GREAT finishers. Entire weight of someone's body landing on someone's chest WILL hurt like heck and be able to end to a pin. Though Daniels' mooonsault is hardly the best; that award goes to Great Muta/Keiji Mutoh, the innovator of the move.
Finisher 1 : The Swanton Bomb
-Jeff Hardy doing it? Yes. The move itself? No. See #2
An accurate top ten would be:
10. John Cena's STF (ONLY John Cena's. STF = GREAT submission. But Cena's looks so weak... you usually see daylight which is always a bad sign.)
9. Randy Orton's Cutter (ONLY Randy Ortons. Because he is so lazy with it, anyone could just shrug their head to get out of it)
8. WAR Special (Genichiro Tenryu's submission hold)
7. Any Backbreaker (Sorry Roderick Strong)
6. Chop Drop (AKA The Worm)
5. People's Elbow
4. Cena's Finisher
3. Lungblower
2. Overdrive (It doesn't DO anything...)
1. Canadian Destroyer (it's a silly, fake-looking move)
Posted by OctoberRaven on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 37
Also, to whoever said a lariat is a weak finisher, do yourself a favor and watch some Kobashi matches.
Posted by OctoberRaven on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 38
Caio-
Pretty simple. That person throws a particularly powerful punch/boot. He knows how to hit it with such force and effectiveness that it can finish where a normal one wouldn't.
And Jeff Hardy does everything half-arsed.
And yes, I mean his fireman's carry. It's got no real impact that makes it more punishing than a body slam.
Posted by OctoberRaven on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 39
AJ Wacko, Victoria is a diva that can wrestle:P~
cba to scroll up and who said about the 619 but that mvoe sucks aswell :P
Posted by Huang Zhong on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 40
The RKO would hurt, the point isn't the guy's face landing on the mat, it's actually Orton's hand that's put under the opponents neck, which when he fall he does the same hitting you see on a ''stone cold stunner'' or on the samoan spike .It does hurt the face.
Posted by Tony Vinceti on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 41
I am really grateful for all of your comments and will take um on board for my next article. Keep them coming =D
Posted by Astatine on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 42
put the pheonix splash in the top list its the difficultiest high flying maneuver ever take a look on youtube to see the move
Posted by Cerberus on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 43
Nice i like jeff hardy and batista i think the jeff finisher hurts and batista bomb to hurts
but i think in that list need the swanton bomb and batista bomb i love it
Posted by Charger on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 44
To OctoberRaven, did you not notice how this entire topic is based on opinion, how can you say you have an accurate list of overrated moves, its all in opinions, and yeah that diva copied the Styles Clash.
Posted by Astatine on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 45
OctoberRaven how can you say the Canadian destoyer is useless it can be the most devestating move ever when hit correctly.
Also if the styles class is done correctly when landed, it could break someones nose/jaw or both assuming its done correctly (the opponent lands face first).
Posted by sjs on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 46
I'm pretty surprised you've included the double-arm DDT, Codebreaker/Backstabber and anything from the top rope. Also, the Fame Asser looked pretty good, and the Big Boot... well that just looks like it should really hurt, particularly if it's done by someone big enough.
I think any standing elbow/leg drop (Worm, People's Elbow, Atomic Leg Drop, Ballin' Elbow, 5 Knuckle Shuffle) should be in this list. I realise the last 2 aren't finishers, but why don't they get interrupted anywhere near as often as the People's Elbow or Worm used to? I suppose at least as finishers they hooked the crowd in, and the People's Elbow in particular always followed a spinebuster...
DDTs you're right - they're simply not finishing moves unless they're heavily modified (top rope Edgecution, for example, or the double arm DDT or Impaler).
I'd have included the Attitude Adjustment simply because on anyone less than 300 pounds it shouldn't really hurt. If it was hit on any high flyer it would be exactly the same as if they'd missed a top rope move. At least Brock Lesnar's F5 looked cool with the spin... The Playmaker's entirely ineffective as well - what the hell's it supposed to hurt?
Also, Kozlov's headbutt's not his finisher, so no point making that part of the list
Posted by The General on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 47
yeah, the attitude adjustment is overrated, but being overrated it makes the dreamer driver overrated as well, what makes dreamer's finishers both overrated since the other one is just a DDT...oh i hate zack ryder but the Zack Attack is one of the best finishers i've ever seen, though it probably makes no damage it looks awesome as hell
Posted by Eddy on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 48
wow this is the first time i have seen anyone not comment about cenas AA everyone says he and the move is overrated i say not but im surprised that your not one of the cena haters sweet
Posted by trimack on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 49
A lot depends on who does what to who, most finishers can look awesome if done (and sold) well.
Posted by PieMaster on Friday, July 03, 2009
Comment # 50
Styles Clash is called the "Landing Pin"
Posted by Judoka on Saturday, July 04, 2009
Comment # 51
i agree with most everything said above but a 250+ pound person dropping on u from a ladder or ddting u fron that same ladder? no offense but that would HURT!!! then yea 619 looks odd but rey gets great pop and it would hurt u sure u want 2 boots to the face, rider?
Posted by remy "spinebreaker bads on Saturday, July 04, 2009
Comment # 52
put any good showman in a ring with anyone and the match is AWESOME but u need more splashes in it like the standing moonsault is awesome looking but it not gonna hurt either
Posted by remy "spinebreaker" bads on Saturday, July 04, 2009
Comment # 53
mhm..well in my opinion moust overrated fin's are:Angle slam=so soft.619=usualy who gets it puts a hand up so it doesnt really hit him in the face,Wordls strongest slam,that stings fin=its letehrly a reverse ddt.
Posted by wooot on Saturday, July 04, 2009
Comment # 54
52 posts and only one person can mention Orton's Punt as being the worst 'finisher' ever..
It is not just supposed to be a finisher, it is supposed to be some life-threatening career ending move..
Guys that take piledrivers, DDTs, and powerbombs all night long are supposed to be hospitalized for MONTHS because Orton kicks them in the head once..?
It was not a bad list, but it was based on opinion as well. Punches, kicks and other basic moves shouldn't be turned into finishers or at least kept to only one or two people using them for it, however, moonsaults, DDT's and the like can be very impressive finishers.
The Master of the DDT, Jake Roberts, made it into a very impressive finisher back before everyone started using the DDT as a transition move. Moonsaults in the hands of acrobatic masters can really make them look devastating. It is more who is using the move in the end than the move itself.
Posted by MSW on Saturday, July 04, 2009
Comment # 55
Lamest move ? STF with the ropes against Big Show ...
Remember that just any of these finishers would hurt, but it is "just" wrestling ...
Posted by Trevan on Saturday, July 04, 2009
Comment # 56
I'm sorry but Raven made the Evenflow DDT look like it could kill you. Jake the Snake's DDT back in the day looked the same. I think the DDT maintains it's power, it's a sad fact that it is given to newbies who can't sell it correctly.
Posted by Blue Demon Jr. on Saturday, July 04, 2009
Comment # 57
whether WWE realizes it or not TNA is its only hope cause if TNA catches up to WWE they will have to put on better shows
Posted by RIPPER X on Saturday, July 04, 2009
Comment # 58
i think that this is a good topic but astatine needed more help on it
Posted by Remy on Saturday, July 04, 2009
Comment # 59
Come on ripper, you know tna will never catch wwe so soon! wwe is 50 years older than tna, there is no whay that tna can catch up with wwe even in the next 10 years it won't catch up with wwe, even with great wrestlers like angle, joe, styles. besides samoa joe almost every decent wrestler there has been in wwe or wcw and made their careers on wwe or wcw, and only not-even-close-to-be-decent wrestlers made their career on the six sided ring like homicide and hernandez, shark boy, suicide, jay lethal etc etc etc
Posted by Eddy on Saturday, July 04, 2009
Comment # 60
I have no clue what this "wouldn't cause any damage" means. I thought finishers were supposed to be done when the opponent was too brain dead to respond anyway.
#10 Get dumped on your head with nothing that you can use to protect yourself.
#9 Best I seen with this was when Hacksaw would wrap his fist in tape and punch someone.
#8 I thought the scissor kick from Booker T was a set up for that leg drop from the top rope or something. Billy Gunn's was performed a bit different so it really seemed more like a leg drop to the back of the head I believe.
#7 Big boot really seems more like a set up move. Not really sure how those wrestlers perform it, but if it is performed while either are running I would buy it as a finisher.
#6 I always liked seeing Raven do the DDT.
#5 No comment (never seen the new one)
#4 This is like the best finisher I have seen recently. (I don't understand reasoning on this one)
#3 Same as 5.
#2 Is this the same one Hugh Morris did? I hate Goldberg for kicking out of this one. Hugh is beating him the whole match and Goldberg just seems like he is giving him a bump. Then he gets up immediately, spear, jackhammer, over.
#1 Definitely just trying to start an argument.
You baited me into posting so I guess job accomplished. I guess the worm can't be brought up because it is meant to be lame looking. I believe it was just a fist drop.
Posted by Pratfall on Saturday, July 04, 2009
Comment # 61
I agree, and i would add some things like the keltic cross, battering ram, killswitch, etc.
On your next article you should write about the most coppied finishers.
Posted by Riku on Sunday, July 05, 2009
Comment # 62
I do a varation of a double arm ddt were I pull the opponent's arm upwards after I've ddt'd them
It HURTS
Posted by DaX on Sunday, July 05, 2009
Comment # 63
Astatine, you try to say moves like a knockout punch and moonsault would not hurt. That's not opinion.
Also, sjs, the problem with the Canadian Destroyer is it's too fake-looking. It doesn't make any sense to use it the way Williams uses it. There's simply not enough momentum to realistically pull it off. If done from an elevated position or while running, I can buy that. But done from a dead start, it's silly-looking and convoluted. Williams doesn't even do anything in the move but hold on.
That's my problem with Orton's cutter as well. It's so lazy. He just jumps and barely holds on to the guy's head. I love cutters but Orton just half-arses his.
About a running kick to the temple... soccer kicks are banned from MMA for a reason. They can be NASTY, and yes, career-threatening. I'd take Shibata's Penalty Kick over Orton's punt any day though.
Posted by OctoberRaven on Monday, July 06, 2009
Comment # 64
Love how much real wrestlers we have here, on TWG...it´s awesome for us, the fans to be closer to the real deal
Posted by T-Money on Monday, July 06, 2009
Comment # 65
My Top 10:
10. Big Boot
9.Heart Punch
8.Mike Knox's Move
7.Backbreaker
6.MVP's Playmaker Thing
5.Code Breaker
4.Walls Of Jericho
3.Tommy Dreamer's DDT
2.New Pedigree
1.Atomic Leg Drop
Posted by kyle1102 on Monday, July 06, 2009
Comment # 66
Anyone remember the Worm??? dumbest move ever...how about dean malenko and his infamous armbar....the good old days weren't always good guys
Posted by Deathstryke on Monday, July 06, 2009
Comment # 67
#3 It's performed by Michelle McCool - the faith breaker
Posted by Kid Jeff on Monday, July 06, 2009
Comment # 68
I'll rally behind the New pedigree and Walls of Jericho being bad but I believe the pedigree was hurting people. (There's a video of HHH dumping some guy on his head.) Hilarious BTW. As for Jericho goes I remember the liontamer being really painful looking because he more or less put them on their side and pulled. It looked Super brutal. I would say he was hurting people and had to change it. And finally The Leg drop (hogan). Seriously.....That may have been ok in like the 1800's but come on.
Posted by Josh on Tuesday, July 07, 2009
Comment # 69
Well one move I have to really agree on is The Swanton Bomb. It looks cool. But in all honesty, it does more damage to the person doing it, then the person receiving it. Hell there have times when I have seen Jeff Hardy do the move and it appears to hardly even hit the opponent. Yet the opponent acts like the full thing hits him. I wouldn't be surprised if one day Jeff Hardy breaks his neck doing it and kills himself. I don't want to see it happen. I like Jeff Hardy. But the move is dangerous, hard to pull off and is really not very effective. Before i forget. want to comment on the Knock Out Punch/ Club. In most cases, I think a punch is just a crappy finishers. Not because it isn't strong. Not because it is isn't effect. But because it is a punch. I am sure Big Show could do that punch years ago. Do you know why he didn't? Because the writers back in the day knew better then to use a punch as a finishers. Instead they opted for a good chokeslam. I think they were just running out of ideas with bigshow and decided to change it up and give him this punch. Punches should be kept punches. Plane and simple.
Posted by Jam-Jul Lison on Wednesday, July 08, 2009
Comment # 70
A lariat isn't a finish? Watch Stan Hansen. Do it. Do it now.
A DDT isn't? Seriously? Why? Because there isn't a flip?
Big Boot? Go to youtube and search Brodie Lee kicks off Shane Storm's face.
Backbreaker? Search Billy Robinson. Seriously, his stuff holds up a lot better than anyone I can remember.
A great finisher is a great finisher because of the person who uses it and the person who takes the move.
Posted by CS on Thursday, July 09, 2009
Comment # 71
No, the DDT isn't a finisher i don't think because it is just a move that i have seen used so many time by so many people, i would believe it as a finisher from raven or someone that can make it look deadly, but not from people who can't do it, it just looks tacky then
Posted by Astatine on Friday, July 10, 2009
Comment # 72
the guy who posted this article completely disregards the fact that ANY MOVE CAN BE USED AS A FINISHER.
it takes time and effort to get people to buy a move as a finisher, but when it happens people accept it.
the writer has no clue what he is talking about.
Posted by on Friday, July 10, 2009
Comment # 73
For most overrated finishers, a lot of the ones you posted I wouldn't consider finishers, most of them are trademarks, thus negating most of your list. For the ones that actually are finishers, I'd agree they're overrated, but you left out some big ones. My ten most overrated to follow.
10. The F-U: Come on, it's a glorified body slam.
9. The F-5: No real impact, gravity did most of the work.
8. Dreamer/Raven's DDT: Plausible during Jake Robert's era, but not anymore.
7. The Samoan Spike : Do I really need to say anything?
6. Style's Clash : I agree with this one, it's very weak. Would be better if he dropped on his knees and drove the guy's head into the mat instead.
5. Any Moonsault : Just can't buy them as finishers anymore, but still a good move.
4. Swanton's : Again, they look nice, but there's so many better moves.
3. The RKO : He's trying to be DDP and failing, and it hurts me.
2. The 619 (followed by anything): Rey does not have the leg strength to kick anyone across the ring like that, so it fails.
1. Hogan's Leg Drop : I know he doesn't wrestle anymore, but this has been, and always will be, the most overrated finisher in wrestling history.
Posted by Warren Peace on Saturday, July 11, 2009
Comment # 74
My list is
10.Neckbreakers: Because they dont deliver that much impact
9. Legdrops: unless they hit you in the face(which some dont)sthu
8. 5 knuckle shuffle: not taking anything away from cena he is a great performer and a great wrestler but the move is basicly a fist drop with a few fancy moves and the thing here is that it always hits and you would think a guy waveing his hand infront of his face and you have seen him do this before get the hell out of the way
7. 619:and thats it
6. samoan spike:...sucks
5. moonsault: also sucks
4. peoples elbow:SUUUUUUa UUUUa UUUCks
3. Frog splash:.. and thats it
2. RKO: sooooooo overrated
1. Punt:sooooooooooooooooo over over rated
Posted by Axel Steel on Monday, July 13, 2009
Comment # 75
10.swanton bomb
9.ddt
8.style's clash
7.clothes line from hell
6.big boot
5.619
4.bigshow punch/ khali chop/ samoan spike
3.AA
2.people's elbow
1.atomic Legdrop
Posted by Vinroy on Monday, July 13, 2009
Comment # 76
Dude Aj's Opponets do Take The Impact. thier face and abdomin hit the mat.
Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, July 15, 2009
Comment # 77
How can you forget the F-U/AA!?!?
Posted by ThugLuv1718 on Sunday, July 19, 2009
Comment # 78
the only thing i had a problem with on this list is saying that the swanton bomb is overrated. if you mess up on it, u could break ur neck, break ur opponents ribs, or even worse, the swanton bomb is underrated. people think that jeff is always gonna climb the ropes and jump off, landing, hit or miss, and be ok. one minor mistake could end both his life and his opponents. think bout the practice, skill, and everything that goes into the move that allows the superstars be ok day after day, match after match
Posted by TakeDown on Monday, July 20, 2009
Comment # 79
i change my mind, i will talk about each comment consecutively.
#10 the double arm DDT is meant to put a twist on a regular DDT, they grab the arms to give a submission attribute to it, and as long as it is sold right, it is good. p.s. not many wrestlers use this now.
#9 the KO punch is not a finisher. the main people that use it are khali and big show. show still does a chokeslam, he hit the punch, then gives them a choke slam. and khali now uses it as a basic move idiot.
#8 one thing u need to notice about the scissors kick is that they are putting all the force of their weight into the back of the neck, a simple chop there can kill a person.
#7 the big boot is not widely used, kane uses it as a basic move, and the versions that are finishers include one person running and often lead to the person goin through with the kick and stomping on the persons head at the end.
#6 the DDT is a basic move that is only considered a finisher for fresh people. i curently no of noone that uses it as a finisher that cant sell it. Dreamer is using the dreamer driver more than his DDT now, but he has so much experience that he easily makes it believable and often when it is a finisher, it is done onto and object that can do damage.
#5 the new pedigree is no different than the origional version, HHH just doesnt sling them up now. he was breakin peoples nose. and even now, the way it is done could make any face ugly in reality.
#4 the codebreaker is not used to end the match often, but it could provide head trama and bust someone wide open. the back cracker could easily snap ur spine, either killin u or paralyzing u.
#3 this does something similar as a DDT, and uses leverage, this could easily break the neck of the person it is being done to.
# 2 the moonsault can be dangerous for both people, it can have the same effects as a swanton bomb. when sold properly it is one of the best moves ever, think back to when lita was around and used it.
#1 see comment #78 to get my ideals on this
Posted by TakeDown on Monday, July 20, 2009
