Comment # 1

Undertaker is now 16-0 at wrestlemania. Other than that great article.

Posted by Sid the Kid on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 2

Hogan never faced Taker at Mania dude. And where do people get off saying the FU isn't a good finisher. You're eight feet in the air and slam straight on you're back by a very strong man. Oh well, to each his own.

Posted by The White Ranger on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 3

About the finishers, why don't you like the tombstone piledriver, it looks like one of the most deadliest moves if done right, which The Undertaker does near perfectly all the time.
And the west coast pop is alrite, but that doesn't inflict any damage, doesn't even look like it

Posted by Alexrules01 on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 4

Undertaker and Hogan have never gone toe-to-toe at Wrestlemania, EVER.

Posted by Gravedigger on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 5

Skipping the wrestlers bit, bc I don't need to be reminded of stuff I already know.

Many fans were getting annoyed having to wait for Summerslam, Wrestlermania, Royal Rumble, or Survivor Series to see all the talent on one show.

You see every show's talent at every PPV now, something I wish would stop.

Some finishers I do not aprove of are: FU, Tombstone, 619, and People's Elbow

I agree on the FU and Elbow. But the tombstone has your head being crashed to the ground in between someone's knees to make sure you don't wiggle out. The 619 has enough speed behind the kick to lay out the average man. In fact, I'd like to see you take a 619 and tell me it doesn't hurt.
Surprised you didn't mention the Mic Check.

if you have the write participants (I'm LOL at that)

Agreed on the Ironman match. Last and only one I've seen is the 2005 Ironman match HBK vs. Kurt Angle. That was great wrestling.

How cliché?
Define cliche for me. Never knew what the word meant.

-TPP

Posted by The Philadelphia Phighter on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 6

i'm gonna skip hogan's family problems rite now cuz of American gladiators, bt the rock, the 1 thing i wanted u 2 mention but didnt, was the fact that the rock has completely turned his back on wrestling. is he good actor, maybe. a good wrestler, sure. is he the charismatic guy that gets the fans psyched up and pumped, o hell yeah. and iv heard fans ask him if he would ever think bout coming back and facing john cena (fyi, cena has skillz) he said no, now i h8 the rock. and there is my 2 pennies.


anyway good article.

Posted by glide fan on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 7

cliche means soemthign that wa sfunny or cool at first that went down. like Joey Styles Oh My God got cliche some people say. JR this will be a sloob knocker is cliche to me.

nice article thank you for not tlakign up everybody. I think a better way to top up wrestlers is like have a top 10 favorite wrestler article. Dopey nobody could screw that up. Future will require more talent and in ten years our Kid loving some of our favorite from our era. past is well promotional terrority leaders runnign idnepent show smore titles but more guys not getting good medical ingrusent. Vince MicMannon father unifitied wretslign with a saturday morning wretsling with the balck jackets. plus Mania on Fox 40. When wrestlers had good phystics not like these new wrestlers. plsu tons of classic monent which most have legends name in them.
Future is well maybe MVP teaching new talent and bastista trianers with some guy who is over looke dfor two years like possible Jimmy Wang int wo years has a surpise holy terro the Stone Cold Rock up bringing style. If that comes back WWE will have a future if not they will end up like NWA. getting soembody like the franchise insulting the hard work of WWE wrestlers and a new wrestlign world emerges that will forget about WWE like it's a fossil that might get dug up or left bury.

Posted by Jake Hammer on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 8

Clich means something that is over used such as a phrase such as the ones used up in comment number 7

Posted by Dark_wolf on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 9

I understand that I did make a few mistakes, I mixed up Wrestlemania with Survivor Series. I am sorry for that. Thank you for not being to harsh, as it is my first article. And Jake, I could not tell if the first part of your comment was sarcasm or truth.

Posted by Dopey. Jr on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 10

it was sarastic truth. you did wellw itht eh tellign abotu their apploshiments but it kidna seems like you spoiled another article idea.

the second part about WWe beign the reason we ahve a mayor protion instead of smaller shows left out the Wal mart metafour should have left it in. when youg uys finally woke up yous aw WWE becoming either successful on raising new talent not just throwing somebody in the spot and saying run with it kid.calling it a fossil wow bold; no hate mail surpising.
The search for the next big wretsle ris liek the search for the next Mike Jordan stop it and repsect these athetteles for what they can do now not comparing to the past.

Ha si watch a Kung Fu esp. master Poe said to the mainc haracter A mans roots are what binds him to his future. So by not forgettign wretlsing past we have a chance at a bright future. Just the balance of how to remember the past.

Posted by Jake "the Hater" Hammer on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 11

this was stupid and i hated it please stop you make me gag.

Posted by chris on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 12

just a comment taker is 16-0

Posted by manuel taker on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 13

Whoa, where to start...
Hulk Hogan may have been the segway into the mass popularizing of professional wrestling in the late '70s/early 80s, but that doesn't mean that he was the best example of it. To start with, his "character" was and still is a direct plagarism of "Superstar" Billy Graham (he even stole the facial hair). If you don't believe me, google him and tell me Hogan is not a dead ringer for Graham, both decked out in a boa.
Though very charismatic, Hogan has never been any sort of tactician in the ring and this "Why Have A Showcase Of Moves, Let Alone Update Them, When The 24 Inch Pythons Can Steamroll Everyone, Brother" mentality has shone through most of his career. Don't get me wrong, I grew up watching and loving Hulk Hogan. His ability to make you want to yell and cheer, jump around and rip your own t-shirt off was unmatched and still is in some ways. But you can't start believing your own hype and that's exactly what Hogan did. Backstage politicking, coupled with an ego that none of us could begin to comprehend, ultimately made "The Hulkster" his own worst enemy.
An example: how many remember the first appearance of Hogan with the NWO? That was exciting because it was fresh(as far as Hogan goes, anyway). Now how many remember the hellish amount of time Hogan spent squatting on the WCW title? For anyone that consistently watched WCW, Hogan became an irritant instead of the mega heel. We wanted him to drop it so bad and not because we hated his character, as it should have been, but because we were sick of his schtick and his inability to make any matches look good (no matter who he was paired with). Great Personality; no doubt. Incredible Charisma; I could not agree more. Ultimate Performer; sir, surely you jest. Oh, by the way, Andy Kauffman did the "Man from Hollywood" gimmick 30 years ago and he did it so much better.

As to Stone Cold, I won't say much except that he was a very gifted talent and it's a shame that the Hogan Syndrome also inevitably struck him down. Also, though Stone Cold could hit it good sometimes, Whipwreck always hit it better. Ask somebody if you don't understand.

I'm going to condense the last 3 for easier firebombing. John Cena and Randy Orton are jokes. Cena is a skilled mid-carder at BEST and Orton needs to find something else to do. Preferably something that doesn't involve him on my television set. I'll get to Edge in a minute.
Cena never got over until a stupid Halloween SD where he dressed up as Vanilla Ice. It was extremely funny and I commend him on the spot-on impersonation. But when it is spun in to an "Urban Thug" character, complete with thug-lite B-Squared (Bull Buchanan), the humor quickly evaporated. He became a mixture of Stone Cold and Road Dogg, spitting out stupid rhymes before hitting people with chains. I'm going to leave Cena alone for the moment, but I would like to say that if the guy could wrestle half as good as he pretends to be ex-military based on movie roles, I wouldn't have many problems with him.

Randy Orton, Randy Orton...why do you continue to push me away from something I've loved my whole life? Seriously, has this guy ever been able to draw any real heat without insane amounts of time, money and lavish UNDESERVED victories just handed to him? Anyone remember the finishers he used before the Diamo...er, I mean RKO? The flying body press; oooooooooh, I'm worried. The Overdrive; a more misnamed move will never be found. What in the world makes someone think to themselves, "Yeah, if I drive MY knee in to the mat BEFORE the other guy's head bounces off of my knee, that'll look so awesome."? You know why a DDT works? Because their head (supposedly) hits the ground just a little bit before your back. If you put someone's head in the middle of your chest and fall backwards, it kind of loses the impact. But apparently Orton skipped that part in wrestling school. Craptastic finishers aside, Orton has never struck me as a "lifer". People like his father gave their lives to the ring and to the fans, where as Orton phones in match after match after match, seeming as if he is always at an audition; waiting for his chance to be a big Hollywood actor, maybe cut a rap album or anything else Vince can squeeze money from.
Lack of character depth aside, I can name a dozen other people more deserving of the "Legend Killer" persona. What did Orton do with this great opportunity to, in one great leap, get over on so many truly legendary people? He smugly vogued. That's right, the man would help see us into the next generation (or should I say "Evolution") of main eventing Superstars was basically...Rick "The Model" Martel. I'm moving on, the thought of Orton is turning my stomach.

Finally, Edge. Edge is another guy that would be king of the mid-card if I had my druthers. He has a lot of athleticism, I have always respected that, but the simple truth is the guy has no creative mind for professional wrestling.
I dare anyone to prove to me that Edge has ever used a finisher that was not blatantly stolen from someone he has worked an angle with. The Downward Spiral was the worst excuse for an inverted russian leg sweep (or inverted STO, if you prefer) I have ever had the misfortune of seeing. He wouldn't even hook an arm OR leg, just grab their head and fall backwards. The Impaler (elevated DDT, which is not an unusual move) he just happened to start using right after Gangrel was let go. What move was it that Gangrel used? Oh yeah, the Impaler. Incidently, if you are going to steal your co-workers move at least change the name to something that fits your character (Gangrel was a vampire guy with long canine implants and who drank "blood", hence the "Impaler"). He picked up the Edge-O-Matic shortly after Nova was hired by the WWE, but in lazy Edge fashion the double-arm wrap before the drop is changed to: I grab your hair and you fall down and then I win Yay. The spear he took from Rhyno during their program with Christian. Do I have to mention the Edge-U-Cator? (Though I do like the name on that last one.)
My point was that Edge has the ability to wrestle and tell a story through his actions, but his story is always the same; derivative and repetitious. Egotistical, over-confident pretty boy, who acts like the evil twin of that guy you used to surf with, is really in love with himself and he might just hit you to prove it. *Yawn* Get a gimmick, already.

Here I would like to add someone that probably gets overlooked by a large number of fans: Kane (Glen Jacobs). This guy has never once gotten in any sort of serious trouble and has played each and every craptastic job they handed him to the upmost of his limited ability. Issac Yankem, D.D.S? Deisel (post-Kevin Nash)? Jason Vorhees? Mr. Jacobs has never given anything less than 90%, which still doesn't make him one of the best big men in the business on his best days but it does make him a damn solid employee.
Want proof? Did he tombstone Pete Rose time after time, basically mocking the gimmick a little? Did he let The Headbangers break a stupidly empty boombox on his face, just so he could double chokeslam them? Did he get in with DX and learn how to talk, how to live and, most importantly, how to love? He raped Lita, for Pete(Rose)'s sake!
Yet through all of it, you get the best characterizations that he has to offer (be they good or be they bad) and a solid, if somewhat boring, work style.

I completely agree with almost everything you had to say about the company and current pushes (that people are getting them, not necessarily who is getting them), so I will mercifully move on. =)

I could not agree more that a finisher should both look great and be very devastating (in theory, if not in practice). I won't go over the Tombstone, other people have already nailed that one down tight. No, the two I am going to attack are, coincidently, the spear and the RKO.

I've said my peace on Edge, so I won't beat a dead horse, but the spear as a finisher is a complete waste. A signature, sure. Nothing like a heart-pounding kick out at 2 9/10 after the vicious spear that came out of nowhere. "But, Roman..", you might say, "..you just said the spear is a stupid finisher but you didn't slam Rhyno earlier.". Good for you, for so I didn't and I will tell you why.
Rhyno, originally, would gore you. Then you would get gored into the turnbuckle. Then he would gore you through the ropes and out onto the floor. Then he would gore you in front of, or into, the fans. Then you would try to get back in the ring and he would, yep, gore you again. These would be interdispersed with other moves, but inevitably the repeated goring won the day. Do you see the cycle? It's not one but repeated uses of a move, something that is subtlely clever about his original use of the gore. I say original because after ECW, Vince neutered "The Man-Beast".

But I digress. The RKO, if we must call it that, is the sloppiest attempt at what is basically a lazy finisher to begin with. The secret to the inverted DDT is the use of BOTH hands; one to clutch the jaw and back of the neck, the other to wrap on top of the head, grasping your other hand. The effect is supposed to be someone forcing your head and neck area onto the ground using your body weight, nothing clever. How are you supposed to do this when you only use ONE hand? Where is the leverage from above, forcing them down? Just another example of Orton phoning in a simple move.
Think what you will about DDP, the man (like Stone Cold) knew how to deliver a move that was supposed to "come out of nowhere".

I won't talk about the match types except to say that "TLC" and "Money In The Bank" are trademarked by WWE, Inc. Kind of scarey, yeah?


All in all, I liked the article even if I didn't agree with most of it. I look forward to any feedback and your next work.







Posted by Roman Synn on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 14

I liked your article mate but you didnt mention anything about the past except a small part about watching 80's dvds. The 80's and 90's wwf* was awsome and also some very early 00 but after that it started getting a bit pants tbh. In my opinion if your gonna call the artical Past and future you need to focus more on the past before you can start talking about the future. Thats my 10 cent anyway

Posted by Ego on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 15

Sorry one last thing - it was blatently obvious mcmahon wasnt injured, if it was true the way they claim it happened, health and saftey inspectors would shut down all WWE house shows until they were 100% sure it would never happen again. They cant have stages blowing up and collapsing when 11+ thousand people are around ringside.

Posted by Ego on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 16

You forgot to talk about Triple H. Even though you did some mistakes, your article is pretty good. I'd give it a 9/10

Posted by RockyVlad on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 17

Hulk Hogan sux! This Articles Sux! You Sux!

Posted by Smark on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 18

Everything Roman wrote was 100% correct. Maybe he should be writing articles, instead of just replying. I think a lot of you could learn something from him, instead of just eating up the propaganda that Vince has been feeding you for years. I appreciate your article, but sorry Dopey, you've got it all wrong.

Posted by Black Mathias on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 19

Mathias, I understand, but articles are not who thinks about wrestling just like everyone else. It is about what you think, I agree Synn should defintely write articles as well. Also you can not say I have everything wrong because you do not agree. That is unethical

Posted by Dopey on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 20

Roman definately and please apply to be an article writer mate I thoroughly enjoyed your reply. Dopey, I appreciate what you were saying bro, very good attempt for your first article looking forward to many more.
Peace.

Posted by Yuri on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 21

I agree with u on cena but i wish he will never win a title again!

Posted by King DX on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 22

The Rock turned on wrestling?? Jesus, He dont owe us anything, he gave us(fans) great year of entertainment, And finally he said, enough, and I respect that, I fhe wanna be an actor, so be it, way more money + no big injuries risk. So move on people.

Posted by Lukas S. on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 23

Well Curtis, that maybe right but, at some point of your life you have right to change your mind, especcialy when you think about your familly and yourself, and at that moment that was his choice, I understand that people can be angry with him, but Its time to stop being selfish

Posted by Lukas S. on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 24

No Lukas....Rock said wrestling was all he ever wanted to do...he lied to everyone:)

Posted by Curtis Kash on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 25

This article seems somewhat rushed. I mean, you miss out alot on the WWE Past. I was hoping you'd go more into the WWF superstars from earlier then the attitude era, like Andre the Giant, 'Macho Man', Ultimate Warrior, The Harts etc. Also maybe major incidents in the past which caused controversy, or that were of particular interest to the fans (e.g. Montreal Screwjob, MSG Incident etc).

I also think the future elemant was somewhat lacklustre. Sure, you mentioned Edge, but he's ALREADY the World Champion. Really, you should have mentioned superstars who you think would break the glass cieling, maybe like Lance Cade or Ted Dibiase jr. Perhaps even some storylines you'd like to see, or gimmicks.

I think the finishers part of this article was unecessary, really nothing to do with the past and future (well, it could have been, if you'd have mentioned about how they have CHANGED over the years), and seemed to me like something to fill space. I wont argue with what you said there, since it's really just opinions on which ones look best. I'd have prefered to see finishers in a seperate article, in which you could go into why you think they're good/bad.

I didn't like this article as much as some of the others, but keep trying and you'll get there eventually. Good luck on your next article.

Posted by Saint Joey on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 26

Actually, it's not unethical. Your article stated a series of opinions, while my opinion is that you're wrong. Simple as that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking you, or your article. I'm simply disagreeing with 98% of it.

Posted by Black Mathias on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 27

WWE today doesn't even touch the old days. The quality of wrestling has gone down hill very fast. The attitude era was the best era.

Posted by Zack Morris on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 28

What do you mean the tombstone isn't a great finisher, if done right it looks great. I f it's done wrong it looks okay and breaks his opponent's neck. The RKO is an okay move if you know how to do it. randy jumps with his arms around his opponent's neck and lands backwards. then his opponent jumps at their own will and lands face first. i honestly think orton's best move is his kick to his opponents heads.other than that, i like these articles and i will keep reading them. 9/10 stars

Posted by Piledriven on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 29

And he did that, he was a wrestler, and all I wanted to do was playin Football(European) and I did that, and Know Im doin something totally diffrent, So being true Rock fan I understan his decision, and I always be a fan of him

Posted by Lukas S. on Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Comment # 30

Oh come on now guys.
This is his first article. There are bound t be mistakes and to be fair i enjoyed reading it :D
Glad you included Undertaker in it i agree that there will NEVER be anyone with half a scary gimmick as him :)

Well Done Man.
Hope to read more from you soon.

Ignore the haters ;) they just trying to be tough.

Posted by Chriso on Wednesday, July 02, 2008

Comment # 31

hulk hogan sucks as a wrestler. i personaly dont like him but he could get the crowd pumped. i hate cena

Posted by cenas gay on Wednesday, July 02, 2008

Comment # 32

Biggest no talent JOBBERS ever: Edge, Christian, Matt & Jeff Hardy, HBK, HHH and JBL. Used to be a lot of really great talent but now they are just scraping the bottom of the barrel trying "make" a NO TALENT JOBBER the next big thing.

Posted by Sinsational on Wednesday, July 02, 2008

Comment # 33

undertaker beat hogan at survivor series in michigan. i was there. happiest day of my life!

Posted by Bob Probert on Wednesday, July 02, 2008

Comment # 34

How about Ric Flair? Dusty Rhodes? Bret Hart? Arn Anderson? Ted DiBiase? Iron Sheik? etc

Only good thing about Hogan was his 'American Hero' gimmick. Everything else was stupid and pathetic. If you gave the gimmick to anyone else they'd be singing their praises. Hogan would throw a tantrum whenever he didnt get his way and everybody would give in and get him what he wanted.

Cena gets a hard time but at least hes a decent guy and works hard, so he should get cut some slack.

Good effort on your first article though :]


Posted by Libertad on Wednesday, July 02, 2008

Comment # 35

Hmmm.. of past wrestlers you should have dropped Mick Foley and wrote about Randy Savage and Bret Hart. I don't agree on claiming that Hulk and The Rock were great in-ring performers, but tastes differ.

Big thank you for Roman Synn for your comments. I wonder about your criticism of SCSA: surely it's not his fault if the biggest draw in wrestling ever is pushed to the moon even when severely injured. His body of work pre-injury is great and even after injury he had great matches with his limitations.

SCSA's success led to that nigh unwatchable Attitude-era where everybody was just brawling badly, though. People fondly remember skits and storylines of that era and that's fine. But the wrestling was awful.

Posted by The Alistaja on Wednesday, July 02, 2008

Comment # 36

How can you critique top wrestlers and not even mention the demi-god Rick Flair? And you say no one could match Hogan for charisma? I have followed wrestling since befoer Flair won his first title and I have never seen and doubt will ever see any one of his class

Posted by Bigbearkev- Mr Washington on Wednesday, July 02, 2008

Comment # 37

I agree with you, Alistaja, on it not being Austin's fault that he was pushed while injured. I also agree that his earlier work (see The Hollywood Blondes, ect) was phenomenal. However, his inability to maintain the same high-caliber in-ring performance resulted in many other wrestlers being told to tone-down their own matches so as not to out shine "The Texas Rattlesnake". While this is nothing new to pro wrestling, Austin's rather unique rise into the stratosphere should have left him more sensitive to the careers of the guys who would eventually replace him.
But it didn't. Instead, Austin became almost as conceited and self-idolizing as Hogan. He was so over that he could have lost to Aldo Montoya, Leif Cassidy and the Brooklyn Brawler for a month straight and STILL have sold approx. 100 Giga-bazillion tickets (warning: this number may not be an actual figure); he was so over that any number of deserving athletes could have taken one clean win and spun it into something good, if not great, but the prevailing thought from both the WWE AND Austin was that it took a certain type of superstar to get the best of SCSA and those can all be counted on one hand. Let me put that as a question: would Austin have lost to Shelton Benjamin by clean pinfall not once but twice? We both know the answer to that one, I think.

I could not agree more that the "Attitude Era" was rife with awful wrestling and this had more than a little to do with the success of SCSA. Can we put all of the blame on him? No. Can we put some of the blame on a man who was known, until the last few years of his career, for his r'epertoire of technical moves until injury and laziness, combined with ego, led him down the path of "Punch - Chop - Arm Drag - Stunner"? I feel that we can. If you want to see just how important SCSA was to the WWE, consider this: after the neck injury he sustained at the hands of the late great Owen Hart, the piledriver was banned. This was not a story gimmick, nobody was allowed to use any move that incurred that sort of head bump. That would seem a normal thing (you don't want all of your performers to wind up with broken necks) but the powerbomb was not banned after D'Lo paralyzed Drozz after a botched one. I guess that's understandable, though. There's a world of difference between he and SCSA. Drozz was a brawler who bored us by punching and kicking his way through every match and Austin.....well, he drank beer, didn't he?

A thought for Dopey: perhaps your next segment could a comparison of how long someone had to job before making into the spotlight in the older days with how long it takes the average WWE "golden boys" of today.

Posted by Roman Synn on Wednesday, July 02, 2008

Comment # 38

there is no mention of Ric Flair :P
how the hell can u forget ric Flair :P
John Cena sucks:P always have and always will:P he isn't even fun to watch. The ECW fans showed us how to treat Cena wen he faced RVD at one night stand a cuple years ago :P
As for the Rock, I have neva liked the Rock but yeh he was good, he was interesting 2 watch whether u liked him or hated him.
Suprised not to see mention of Triple H tho :)

Posted by ME on Thursday, July 03, 2008

Comment # 39

Anybody can marry the bosses daughter. And when they do they should not get recognition for it. However, I am an idiot to forget Flair. My apologies.

Posted by Dopey on Friday, July 04, 2008

Comment # 40

say what you want about any other wrestler being the greatest. But to leave out the excellence of execution, even Sting stole the move. Bret forever, the sharp shooter!!!

Posted by mighty take down on Friday, July 04, 2008

Comment # 41

Great article I agree in all your points without the tombstone thing

Posted by Great RKO on Friday, July 04, 2008

Comment # 42

Dude didn't you know that Taker is now 16-0 at Wrestlemania. And i just wanna say that WWE is not what it was back 2000-2004.

Posted by This article Hater on Saturday, July 05, 2008

Comment # 43

old kane and undertaker were the best. kane was all mucle and scary now he's fat and not 1 bit scary. undertaker was an american bad ass now he's a clean freak. things just cant be the same

Posted by triple xxx45 on Thursday, July 10, 2008

Comment # 44

A better name for the article would have been "WWE: The Attitude vs The Future", since you focused on that era as "the past", apart from Hogan being in there. But then again, you can never please anyone, since if you leave any of these men out, and replace them with someone else, then you'd have people complain about the people left out. You just can't discuss everybody.

Apart from that I would like to say that the RKO is not really the horrible move you people turn it out to be. Sure, it might not look as devastating as some of the more "real finishers" out there, but it still has all aspects a good finisher needs to have in wrestling. It can be triggered in a split second, it can be used as a counter to just about anything, it can be altered into different versions (from the top rope, onto a weapon), it can be set up (like when he crawls towards his opponent). These are all features of a great finisher, that for example can also be found in the Ankle Lock, Sweet Chin Music, Crippler Crossface or Rock Bottom that could be set up to gain crowd support or be hit out of the blue.

About John Cena being too predictable, in all honesty, all top superstars are a bit predictable in the ring. If you have to work as much Cena does, and perform night after night, you just get a routine. Also, the "5 moves of doom", is what his fans expect. They expect him to get that magical boost wrestling is known for, and then perform his trademark moves in succession. When they see the Protobomb, fans don't start cheering because the move is so devastating it'll finish the match. They're cheering because they know his F-U should be attempted soon, and they're trying to give him the full support to do it.

Posted by El Valo on Thursday, July 10, 2008

Comment # 45

I agree a bit of the comment above. When Cena has the same comeback of hitting the 5 moves of doom. But so did many other wrestlers.

Such as Shawn Michaels. When typically both wrestlers are knocked down. HBK gets back up with his famous kip up and the fans go crazy and his kicking ass.

Same thing for Hulk Hogan. The fans loved it when he gone "immortal" you know shaking the ropes while the guy is punching him and punching him and then does the body slam and then leg drop and match is his.

Some wrestles may have the same routine and/or comeback but it just matters on how much it makes the fans go crazy with them knowing whats coming.

Posted by The Dominator on Saturday, July 12, 2008