The Round Table Vol. 2 (Part 2)

--CONTINUED FROM PART 1--

And onto to our final subject which might take a while.

WWE Vengeance

Joose: oh oh oh, how about "Blow Quad" for a Nash move???

DD: Oh snap I still remember that in 2002, what a failure of a tag to his groupies

Lets run down the card:

Air Boom vs. Swaggler

Ziggler vs. Ryder

Beth Phoenix vs. Eve

Christian vs. Sheamus

HHH/Punk vs. Awesome Truth

Henry vs. Show

Alberto Del Rio vs. Cena

DD: Air Boom vs. Swaggler wasn't bad....it just didn't feel like it lived up to the traditional opener match that pumps the crowd enough like it used to be

Nem: I think this was one of the better matches on the card though.

I didn't mind it but I must admit I was waiting for the next match

Joose: I'll be honest, I didnt see the PPV so Im not 100% on what happened. But I think having Air Boom win was the right choice, despite how much I despise both men....

Nem: Who are you? Bouncer?

DD: YOU ARE NOT HUMAN!

YOU ARE....A MACHINE!

Nem: I still don't really get why Air Boom have the titles in the first place considering they didn't really tag before they got the titles.

Joose: Sorry, I dont like flippy-floppy spot monkeys!

DD: Jeff Hardy?

Nem: Jack Evans?

DD: AJ Styles?

Joose: Urgggggggh, PLEASE dont get me started on Jeff Hardy

Nem: Daniels?

Joose, don't get US started on Jeff

DD: MCMG?

Nem: Anyway, back on topic... I would've rather have seen Swaggler walked away with the titles

DD: Swaggler is part of an up-and-coming stable, Air Boom is just, two guys with nothing else to do but team up

Nem: Next match, I personally think, was the best on the card. Especially with the finish.

Joose: To be honest, you would have expected Ryder to win. More that Ziggler had just been wrestling in a match a few minutes before... But they seem hestitant on giving Ryder a title despite how over he is with the crowd

Though I do love me some Ziggles, so Im happy either way

Nem: Even though Swagger and Vickie were at ringside, Swagger was working the crowd heaps when a "let's go Ryder" chant started up

DD: Ryder had been on a hot streak for a while too, surprised they didn't put the strap on him but I guess he'll keep chasing until Survivor Series

Nem: Survivor Series Team

Cena, Rock, HHH, Punk, Ryder. Book it.

Joose: Still, Ryder still gets my "Moment of the year" for singing Friday at Mania :D

DD: you want Rock and Triple H on the same team? Talk about burial X2 :P

Nem: *shudders* oh god. Burial x infinity

Joose: oh right Nem, guess who would be the only one eliminated on that team?

Nem: Punk, duh.

Joose: exactly :P

DD: Well you want to book it, your fault :P

Now onto the Divas Title Match

Joose: Well Beth won, Im happy, all is right with the world.... next! :P

DD: Divas of Doom FTW? I love that new finisher Natalya has been using, that's some brutality for those BARBIES

Nem: Beth wins. Yay. Eve botches. Yay

**It was at this point that Joose got called away. The rest of the article is continued without him**

The rivalry of Sheamus and Christian was continued with their match next after the Divas match

DD: Sheamus vs Christian was actually my match of the night, it could have been better though....

Nem: Yeah I did like this match although Sheamus has lost like 1 match since Summerslam, can't they let Christian go over once?

DD: Christian has been on a losing streak....which is odd

Sheamus yes has only lost to ADR since Summerslam, I think they're building him possibly for a World Heavyweight Championship match

Nem: It would be nice, but didn't they already do this with Sheamus once before?

DD: True....but Christian has been in the title picture all year and Sheamus hasn't been in a PPV title match since last year?

Nem: Thats true. Although he was US Champion for a while though. Anyway, it would be good to see him at the top again

DD: indeed, he's been doing great this year, maybe another run could be imminent in 2012

I wonder though, is he going to beat Henry for the strap?

Nem: who knows... it is possible if they are going to do the whole "Unstoppable Force meeting Immovable Object" type of storyline

DD: Hell, it could work in this sense....Sheamus has been on a tear and Henry well....we'll get to that later.

Next match was the tag teag match of HHH & Punk vs. Awesome Truth

DD: this match started out good....

Nem: this match was looking to be the best match on the card for me. Until the finish of course.

DD: That finish was the biggest farce since Summerslam's ending. And both those endings have one common denominator....

Nem: John Lauranitis?
*pause*

Nem: Oh you mean Nash. Right.

DD: lmao yes sir get a hold of yourself.
Kevin Nash....what else can you really say about him?

Nem: Well here's what I'll say about the finish...
Now, Nash came through the crowd as always... Nash pummeled Triple H. Now here's my question... Why wasn't that a DQ?

DD: From what I saw at the PPV and what other people have said....the referee didn't even look in that direction, he was "too busy" paying attention to CM Punk and Miz, but while Awesome Truth went in for the kill....Nash was still beating him up....BOTCHAMANIA much? ;)

Nem: So there is my question right now. Where was the referee if one guy is making the distraction and pummeling HHH, and the other team does an illegal move to double team Punk? What was the ref doing? Looking at Playboy?
Oh I do love me some Botchamania..

DD: lmao haha but I don't know, WWE really needs to stop taking a page out of TNA's book, overbooking the finish ALWAYS looks bad....that ending for Botch For Glory is proof enough

Nem: Agreed there

Next match was Orton vs. Rhodes

Nem: As soon as I found out this was non-title I knew Rhodes wasn't going over

DD: When I looked at the card at WWE.com, it was a title match....then when I read it was non-title, I figured they'd let Orton go over and once again make Rhodes irrelevant

Nem: It was a great match. It was awesome. But just a booked finished from FAR away

This match was cool for 10 mins and the last 90 seconds you could call blindfolded.

DD: I just didn't see the point in Orton winning, they could have had Rhodes "steal" the match and in retrospect, "pour salt into an open wound" and let Orton grow his anger tenfold and then kick his ass....

they basically tried to do all of that in one night, just with Orton going over and Rhodes going back to square one

Nem: Which never works.

DD: They have really mishandled Rhodes after his initial push and beating Rey Midgetsterio

Nem: At Wrestlemania, I thought this would be his build up to something great. He's got the IC title. Great! Now what? Ergh. Writers... what are you gonna do?

DD: I think ever since Money in the Bank, WWE Creative basically ruined storylines

Next match was the World Heavyweight Championship Match between Mark Henry and The Big Show

DD: people were actually HOT for this match at the beginning....then the match was a typical big show match, too long -.-

but they surprised me....

Nem: oh yeah. I was expecting a huge KO Punch from Henry... but didn't get it

But hell, when they started climbing that turnbuckle, I was thinking that it was gonna be something big. And it was.

DD: I immediately sent you a message on skype, telling you that I smelled something that I haven't smelled in 8 years....

Nem: I know its a repeat and I know people are going to come down on me because "it wasn't as good as the original" but guess what? I don't care. I liked the fact that they had something sitting there that they haven't used in a while. I liked the fact that they did it on PPV AND I liked the fact that they didn't try and fix it.

DD: HELL YEAH, it was very awesome to see that, I couldn't believe it. I got the same goosebumps I got when Lesnar and Show broke the damn ring. I'm also glad they didn't fix it, however it did make the main event that much more awkward....

Nem: It did, but it also made it more creative. Speaking of, lets get into that...

The Main Event. WWE Championship Last Man Standing Match

DD: Alberto Del Rio versus Johnathan "Superman" Cena....

Nem: Immigrant vs. Superman. Yeah this is gonna go well.

What I didn't like about this match was the final 3 minutes

I did enjoy the use of the ring and the surrounding areas in an LMS match

DD: Was it the lack of selling? Or the referee again (Mike Chioda of all people) not paying attention

Nem: The only thing Cena sells is Merchandise

DD: lmao oh snap XD I'll give you that one

Nem: Cena took a double finisher AND a title shot to the head... and almost got up at 8

DD: lmao that was just bad

After the double finisher from Awesome Truth, I assumed he'd just stay down but he got up, the belt shot I thought was the end once and for all, I was shocked....watching Cena try to get back up pissed me off

Nem: Everyone said that he was "still selling" in the ring. No he just looked crushed and disappointed that he didn't get the job done. Don't get me wrong I love an LMS match... but it seems as though the only way you're able to keep a Superman down is with a Big Show and a giant spotlight.

DD: OMG that was the BEST finish to an LMS match for a long time and it shocked me then too because someone finally got the best of Cena and knocked him out....I mean they could have used pyro when he went through that "V" and just KO then

Nem: haha yeah but I doubt going through a "mostly cardboard" V is going to keep Cena down

DD: But the match was great, the writers botched yet another finish

I don't get why they need Cena to look so strong, the win last night was good for ADR but he comes out looking more lucky than satisfied

Nem: Overall the PPV wasn't actually that bad. I was still one of the best PPVs of the year and for Cena to not walk out with the title was still interesting. I'd give it an A-

Bout the 2nd or 3rd best PPV of the year

DD: My grade would be a B, it was a solid show. Money in the Bank takes the best PPV of the year awards in PWI and Wrestling Observer Newsletter, quote me on that ;)

Anyway, I think thats it for this edition of the Round Table. If you have any comments, questions or suggestions for the Round Table for next week, please comment below!

Thanks to everyone for reading!

I'm The Nemesis along with Dominican Daredevil and Joose, you've been a reader.

Comments

1. Comment #1

   I kind of wish I was part of this round table discussion. Although I would have been the person to disagree on a few things. But I think that's what this talk needed :) ( I am back to writing and working an article as we speak.)

   Posted by Jack Crowley on Tuesday, November 01, 2011

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